ALPA MEC code-a-phone update

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MEC CODE-A-PHONE UPDATE - May 22, 2007

This is Richard Obermeyer with a US Airways MEC update for Tuesday, May 22nd, with four new items.

Item 1. US Airways MEC Chairman Jack Stephan has recorded a Chairman’s Message that will be posted in ‘What’s New’ and emailed to all pilots. This message, which reviews the first day of ALPA’s Executive Board meeting, can be heard by pressing prompt 2 on the code a phone.

Item 2. Captain Prater opened the 99th meeting of ALPA's Executive Board today. In his remarks Captain Prater acknowledged the hundreds of US Airways pilots who made the trip to ALPA headquarters yesterday. He stated that since many pilots cannot understand or accept the award of the arbitrator that our union has a problem and therefore an obligation to find solutions to those problems. You can read the text of his remarks at crewroom.alpa.org.

Item 3. Two important ALPA-supported bills, H.R. 2103 and S. 1270, the Pilots Equitable Treatment Act, were recently introduced in Congress. If enacted, they could have a major positive impact on your retirement benefits. Your help is needed in a grass roots effort to immediately contact your U.S. Senators and Representative. To do this, log in to crewroom.alpa.org and click on the Pension Reform Link and then click on the Action Alert logo. Using the information provided, urge your legislators to sponsor and support passage of H.R. 2103 and S. 1270. For complete background information on these bills, go to crewroom.alpa.org.

Item 4. An ALPA Safety Bulletin on runway incursion risks at MKE has been posted under What's New. This bulletin contains information, a map, and recommendations on operating into MKE. All pilots are asked to read this bulletin.

W.A.R. Item 516

FAA AIM, Chapter 8, 8-1-1, Fitness for flight

Paragraph F2, Most pilots do not leave stress “on the ground.â€￾ Therefore, when more than usual difficulties are being experienced, a pilot should consider delaying flight until these difficulties are satisfactorily resolved.



Please remember we still have 1,469 pilots on furlough, 276 pilots have been recalled and on May 14th, the most junior seniority number was 4,437 with a seniority date of October 25, 1999.

As always, look out for each other, keep your families first, fly safe and thanks for listening.
 
He stated that since many pilots cannot understand or accept the award of the arbitrator that our union has a problem and therefore an obligation to find solutions to those problems.
Prater has to act like a politician here. Yes, there's a problem, but that doesn't mean you're going to like the solution.

Let's speculate here. The EC orders both sides back to the negotiating room to work out a solution using the Nicolau Award as the starting basis. Negotiations are generally a give-and-take. If AWA should accede to the taller fences you desire what would we get in return? Surely you don't expect the solution to be one-sided! And what if the negotiations fail to reach any agreement? What will the mechanism be? Binding arbitration? Ha, you've already demonstrated you have no intention of ever abiding by that again. Perhaps you'd agree to the EC making a ruling? Heck, if that was the fair way to do it there wouldn't be binding abritration in ALPA Merger Policy. Quite the conundrum.
 
I think they do expect it to be all give from AWA and all take for AAA.
That's how bullies work. Always have - always will.

Everytime I see one of those black and grey airplanes, I think of a Ferrari with 4 flat tires. So much potential, going nowhere.
 
Okay, I want my profit sharing back from you and all of the AWA pilots, now!
Now here's another somebody who just doesn't understand what negotiating means. The Transition Agreement (which provided profit sharing for the West pilots) was signed by AWA, AAA, and Management. You didn't give it to us; we negotiated it, and now it's our collective profit sharing. Stop being selfish.
 
Now here's another somebody who just doesn't understand what negotiating means. The Transition Agreement (which provided profit sharing for the West pilots) was signed by AWA, AAA, and Management. You didn't give it to us; we negotiated it, and now it's our collective profit sharing. Stop being selfish

Selfish? That is the "pot-calling-the-kettle black". Okay, negotiations are what we are engaged in to keep our seniority intact. Fair is fair. You guys are all over the place.
 
... He stated that since many pilots cannot understand or accept the award of the arbitrator that our union has a problem and therefore an obligation to find solutions to those problems. ...

So Prater thinks there is a problem? Big deal. He didn't say that there was a seniority list arbitration problem, he said there was a problem of acceptance and understanding.

The real problem is that ALPA national did not have a definable merger policy. Now they are going to have to pull a rabit out of there hat, or gamble that they can weather the storm.
 
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It is my understanding that the ALPA Executive Council (EC) has the power to change the Nicolau Award if it believes the seniority integration violates ALPA Merger Policy.

Apparently members of the EC met with the US Airways and AWA Merger Committee's last night and then again today trying to work out a suitable solution.

Ideas being discussed include a long fence and/or new ratios.

The Executive Council is scheduled to adjourn its meeting tomorrow and the body would like to have a resoltuion to this issue before leaving Herndon.

Regards,

USA320Pilot
 
Won't happen. There is no way ALPA can screw with the list without provoking an indefensible DFR lawsuit from the West.
 
I think the outcome is that by the time the whole thing got settled the only thing you'd be piloting is a motorized wheelchair at the local nursing home.

Pretty much so Piney....Pretty much so...sigh. This mess has the full potential to drag out for years.

Prater has to act like a politician here. Yes, there's a problem, but that doesn't mean you're going to like the solution.

If AWA should accede to the taller fences you desire what would we get in return?

Answer = The actual, as opposed to otherwise impossible opportunity for a jointly negotiated contract.
 

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