Aircraft maint issues

Oh yes, he has engaged me W, he has definitely engaged me. I must really get under your skin still.
This is so damn funny. Didn't concern you in the least and then "BAM" W to the rescue like a good little soldier. Amazing you got involved!
Sorry W to disturb your day. But hey, IGNORE ME!
 
AANOTOK said:
Oh yes, he has engaged me W, he has definitely engaged me. I must really get under your skin still.
This is so damn funny. Didn't concern you in the least and then "BAM" W to the rescue like a good little soldier. Amazing you got involved!
Sorry W to disturb your day. But hey, IGNORE ME!
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The topic of this thread is

Aircraft maint issues

Thank you for staying on topic in the future.
 
AANOTOK said:
And you sir belong on the hypocrite thread...but I digress

Sorry guys, my apologies for cluttering up your thread.
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You’re not sorry. You’re never sorry cause you do it all the time.

Now I want to talk about this ghost UPS IBT deal here. So if you don’t know anything about it then.
 
WeAAsles said:
You’re not sorry. You’re never sorry cause you do it all the time.

Now I want to talk about this ghost UPS IBT deal here. So if you don’t know anything about it then.
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You could talk about Swampy love for AMFA setting the bar from mechanics at Northwest with their high pay. Or How your Association got you guys,a raise without a contract. We can't get a raise with no deal. Or how the IAM managed to keep their medical and all their holidays and got a raise with less membership.They sound like alot smarter with a bankrupt Airline, then AMFA team with an Airline that had made a profit every year for 45 years! :)
 
WeAAsles said:
So you trust some unknown poster on a Message Board and not your own common sense that is asking the question why you can’t find this information that they got a second offer from UPS anywhere on the internet?

There are also multiple Teamsters webpages out there that give updates and none of them have any further information besides the rejection last October.

Ever think that you can’t find any information because there isn’t any information to find?
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Just wait for the 8th and you will see.
Man you are ate up with this.

WeAAsles said:
American Airlines Mechanics. Rogallo or Vortillon, Dvlhog, Buck, anyone else?

Have you guys seen or heard anything about this UPS AMT second offer?
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BTW, don't forget we have mechanics here with their fathers and relatives who also work at UPS as mechanics as well as some good friends.

GVPSPIAM said:
I have posted all relevant facts showing you that it did not occur.

First you said mechanics, then you said package drivers, both which I have refuted.

UPS has not paid a buyout to get out of any pension.

You can’t post any links to back up your claims.

Just admit didn’t happen. But you won’t.
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This is not the exact article I read years ago but it does address both times UPS got out of pensions first Central States 3-4 years ago I think, and the New England one back in 2012.
Where I was off was they interviewed several people some retired some not package delivery drivers and there may even be other groups tied to these two pensions that were affected too. There were more articles but this one explains about both times UPS did pull out.
All that aside it also mentions how the retiree benefits were slashed in half and some even more.

UPS Eyes Pension Cuts & Pension Fund Pullouts - Teamsters for a...
 
B737 driver said:
That's got to be the most stupid comment you ever made. Northwest used AMFA own language against them to contract stuff out , and lay mechanics off. It started a year after they got their big raise. You forget I have ex Northwest guys on my crew. And the same guy at Northwest that laid them off, is now at SWA.
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You know full well I was referring to the increases they received which was record setting for the industry of a 9-10 dollar per hour jump.
 
swamt said:
You know full well I was referring to the increases they received which was record setting for the industry of a 9-10 dollar per hour jump.
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Negotiating raises at the expense of your work is not something to crow about.

The Company’s have no problem giving that to you if it’s something you really want since it’s “Cost Nuetral”

Your last AMFA update shows again that the Company is willing to give you more money but they want an equal cost in return with your work.
 
GVPSPIAM said:
Your reaching, Whst you posted is from an anti IBT group, with no facts or links.

Learn to read. That fund UPS left in 2008, 11 years ago.

Just give up.

https://money.cnn.com/2015/10/27/retirement/ups-pension-cuts-central-states/index.html

See took me two seconds to find it.
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GVPSPIAM have you been able to find anything official anywhere about this supposed UPS IBT second bite of the apple?

Not saying something isn’t out there but not reading a peep about it anywhere is extremely odd.
 
WeAAsles said:
GVPSPIAM have you been able to find anything official anywhere about this supposed UPS IBT second bite of the apple?

Not saying something isn’t out there but not reading a peep about it anywhere is extremely odd.
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Not one piece of information out there about a new TA.

Their local 2727’s website shows nothing and anything to do with their contract is behind a members only page.
 
swamt said:
You know full well I was referring to the increases they received which was record setting for the industry of a 9-10 dollar per hour jump.
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And contract out language you could drive a truck through, sorry Swampy not AMFA finest moments.
 
WeAAsles said:
GVPSPIAM have you been able to find anything official anywhere about this supposed UPS IBT second bite of the apple?

Not saying something isn’t out there but not reading a peep about it anywhere is extremely odd.
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I actually agree with you here, it is odd. But, we have been told by a couple guys from UPS they will tally on 8th. We will all see come the 8th. The guys that are communicating to me have done so thru their last 2 contracts and have not been wrong once on their votes. Don't see any reason not to believe them.
 
This is AIRCRAFT MAINTENANCE ISSUES not bag smasher want to be. Until we can get a site where aircraft maintenance and only aircraft can have discussions and not a bunch of stupid name calling this site is pointless
 
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