Aircraft maint issues
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La Li Lu Le Lo
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Are you saying they simulate the "waves" after receiving picks? Because when i was there I remember them having wave 1 then having wave 2 and 3 weeks apart and AFTER people had already arrived from wave 1.
Are you stating that is no longer the case?
Well minimizing impact is a good thing.
Though I see the validity of the complaints about the juniority system.
Real tired
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That's the goofiest thing I've ever heard of. A virtual bump?
It does remind me of a Star Trek episode where the two planets had been at war for 500 years. To minimize the impact on the population, the computer fought a virtual war. When the computer set an attack into motion, it picked those people to report to the "disintegration booth" as the end result. It minimized the impact. Only those chosen by the computer were affected.
Maybe that's were American Airlines got their idea for the juniority system?
MetalMover
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The odds are
I would say the IAM bumping policy will prevail. The laid off worker will choose where he or she wants to bump to as long as he or she has someone junior to him. Since we all like to preach that seniority is all we have left, then we need to practice what we preach. It is only fair that a more senior employee gets to go where he or she wishes and not wind up in the most junior of stations.
Kev3188
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Agreed. Once all options at your station (or Point) are exhausted, you should be able to bump anywhere your seniority can hold.
I am in hopes of you guys moving to the IAM way using your seniority. The way of TWU with it's juniority system is complete BS. It was something the TWU agreed to with the company way back when. Just not sure if all current levels of seniority will get grandfathered in or not. Hopefully they will. If they do not, there will be some big changes coming to certain groups like leads (cc), inspection, maybe even MC and other areas as well. I still have not heard how they are doing classification seniority as of yet. It will get interesting on which way they will go to.
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Airlines all Airlines, look at inflight and management as profit producers. Maintenance is looked as cost.
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Sounds like the company is looking to relieve themselves of a good many of us "Bricks in the backpack" in the latest scope proposal on the table. Hopefully our NC can move this back in our direction. If not this thing is going to be dragging out for a long time.
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Just a rumor at this point Buck. I trust my source though.
MetalMover
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Agreed. Scope is the main issue.
But if history serves as a lesson to us all, no matter how we ever voted on a contract, no matter what, we lost jobs anyway.
I do not think outsourcing will ever be reversed nor reduced. The question is do we wait years and years balking at any scope change? I am not saying roll over and play dead.....But look at the numbers we once had and look at it now. We lost more WITHOUT being in BK than we did IN.
We lose every day that we do not have a new agreement.
MM is correct. My opinion on why you guys are not allowed to see the scope ask by company is because it is so drastic just as in our case at SWA. It's an overkill of asks. They are not releasing in "hopes" to keep the membership calm and collected, which is a request by the company and this asso is agreeing with the company yet again. If I were the NC, I would release what the asks are from the company and follow up with how hard we will fight for our work etc... Not releasing just starts the rumor mills (as MM said it was) and misinformation to swirl like wildfires thru the membership and across the entire system. With no "detailed" updates from the asso. the rumors get enlarged by each city and sation that the rumors are passed on thru with. It's the most negative way to keep the membership uninformed over nego's. Put it all out there for them (membership) to fully judge on their own. This way they know what they are up against and how hard they need to fight.
BTW Buck; here is the latest with our nego's and what might work a little in our favor going forward, I hope...
Southwest Airlines' dispute with its mechanics could stall...
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They are in the same boat we are in Swampy, but they have just been in the boat longer. You can hold out forever, but in the end , you loose something to get a contract. No one wants to admit that, and it really doesn't matter what union you have. All we have to do look at the industry.
Just as bad!
