Aircraft maint issues
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Great, you have me figured out from an internet chat room!
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Not true. Call your own reps, anyone you know and trust and ask them yourself. Don’t believe any of them, go ask a Labor Lawyer.
http://www.local591.com/?zone=/unionactive/contact.cfm
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Yep.
The internal fighting amongst the twu unions will continue forever while the asso. is there. And as the negotiators have said, the asso. first has to nego between the TWU and the IAM FIRST, once they agree, they then will present it to the asso. to see if they agree to present it to the company, then the co. always kicks it back across the table with a direct opposite offer until that can be agreed upon. That's on each and every differences within the two contracts. This will take forever, and some here thinks 2 years is long, just wait until you guys get to the 5-6 year mark like we are, it's coming. I honestly think you guys should pull the trigger since this is more than likely gonna last another 3 years at best.
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From CB an actual negotiator. He estimates about 8 articles left to go.
“Yea, Lets calm down a little in what I stated about big language changes. I didn't say these changes were going to be negative. Most will be positive. As we have been pretty successful in taking the best language out of each contract. To date we have 32 articles that have a t/a. We will have right around 40 ( give or take a couple ) when we are finished. And yes, so far, I can say that i believe all 32 articles are better than in today's contracts. But it is going to take some educating, because some things will change for one side or the other, and I'm sure not everyone will like the changes. But hopefully most will.”
Not sure if that is 100% correct. However, if it's so hard to get AMP or AMFA on a ballot, how about getting the TWU on a ballot to rid this asso.? A legit question here. I know most of you do not want the TWU but would it not be a step up from this asso. shoved down your throats? Or, pull the final trigger and get a mechanics union in at AA. AMFA will not get everything changed over one contract. But they will do it over time as they have here. At least with AMFA the membership will in fact be aware of all issues at the table and they will have full control of the issues fought for at the table. To this day the TWU has not told anyone what the co. is so adamant about in outsourcing. This way you guys won't know until you get a T/A in your hands, then guess what, it's too late do to the asso. agreeing to it hence the title T/A. AMFA may not have all the fixes in one contract but at least the membership would get control. Even if you guys went with a TWU card drive, you would end up with more control than this chaotic asso. BS. C'mon guys get rid them, they are just dragging you guys down big time, pull the trigger and get this done for once. Good luck with anything you guys decide...
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Probably have a better chance just passing the TWU card drive, then AMFA , if fact the TWU would probably help you do it, just to get rid of the I AM, don,t know how much the US Air guys you would get, maybe you wouldn't need them.
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This is the picture used on TWU Local 591 webpage to describe the next protest against the Company. It doesn’t look to me like they are divided.
Good for you!
CB the Fleet negotiator? Great, you get updates from the Fleet side. How 'bout a M&E update in the "Aircrarft Maint Issues" thread! 😵
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You used to have people that came here who could give you all that. People like Bob Owens, Overspeed, Realityck and a few others who escape me at the moment. But because they didn’t always share the anti TWU at all cost viewpoint, they were all it seems run off on a rail. They got fed up. Hell guys on here even ran Bob off of all people.
Maybe if it wasn’t always such a Birch fest on these threads those guys wouldn’t have left? So I don’t know how to tell you if they would ever be willing to come back? But I’m sure it’s very frustrating not having that occasional Leader to talk to on here instead of the same old chit over and over and over.
Overspeed.....yeah, there's a good one. You couldn't pry his lips off Videtichs' ass. One of the all time greats at getting the union what the company wanted.
Hey DFW guys, How is ole Phat Don doing? Kinda fell off the face, huh??
Hey DFW guys, How is ole Phat Don doing? Kinda fell off the face, huh??
Phat Don is actually doing some work for the TWU as a consultant of sorts on the outsourcing related issues. Trying to help us understand how good a job he did for all of us. Lol. Physically, Phat Don is a mess. A guy I work with saw him the other day at a Dr. office: anyway, Phat Don is in rough shape - bloated with bad knees.
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You see there you go. You wouldn’t be able to accept anyone who may now think the TWU is under much better leadership than in the past.
Nope I’m sure in your mind now if either Bob or Gary Peterson spoke well of Samuelsen and Garcia it would be a walk the plank moment for you?
No one can possibly support that God damned POS acronym TWU could they. You said it yourself.
So again if they were going to be attacked period no matter what why should any of them bother to come here? F that.
Step one to restore any credibility to the TWU with me would be to give 100% effort to abolishing the association. We all know it is not promoting unity among members.
Step two would be letting the members democratically choose their union representation.
Any less and it's clear proof that they are looking out for themselves and not their members best interests.
