Airbus Arbitration Scheduled

[700UW]

The IAM and the company have agreed on Arbiter Richard Bloch, the dates will be April 30 and May 3 and 4.

Arbiter Bloch has ruled in favor of the IAM in the last two major cases, the 401K match and the Attendance Control Policy.

 

[usfliboi]

The response here would be, IAM will lose either way. Theres no positive outcome regardless of his ruling. If and i do mean if, he ruled in favor of Iam what have you gained? Regardless cuts and layoffs are still a coming.

 

[ktflyhome]

And you always moan and complain about everyone else on here being so negative, CLT F/A. What a joke..... <_<

 

[Mike W]

usfliboi,
Our fearless leader said cuts are coming even if we agree to concessions.So,where is the upside?

 

[oldiebutgoody]

usfliboi,
Our fearless leader said cuts are coming even if we agree to concessions.So,where is the upside?

Doesn't matter to him, as long as it's someone else losing their job.

 

[ktflyhome]

Ya got that right!!! Oldie :angry:

 

[700UW]

The response here would be, IAM will lose either way. Theres no positive outcome regardless of his ruling. If and i do mean if, he ruled in favor of Iam what have you gained? Regardless cuts and layoffs are still a coming.

You have no idea, we will win, the work will be done in-house, people will be recalled and monetary damages will be awarded.

Planes that don't have mechanics working on them, get parked, and they don't make money sitting on the ground pickled.

And why are you obsessed with the IAM?

Are you related to a certain airbus pilot?

 

[USA320Pilot]

PineyBob:

I agree with your comment of the IAM has placed a lot of chips on one big bet and I sincerely hope they win too.

Provided the company remains a stand-alone business enterprise. if US Airways wins the A320 heavy maintenance grievance and ALPA participates in the “Going Forward Planâ€￾, there could be devastating consequences for the IAM and its members.

The pilots could authorize dramatic productivity improvements, which would be automatically “me too’edâ€￾ to the flight attendants. This could permit the company to simultaneously expand mainline flying by 20% and permit current pilots to enter A320 training. Then the company could add 60 A320 aircraft, with 24 coming from Swiss International and 36 new aircraft from other sources, which would then be used to replace 60 B737s.

The B737s could be transferred to FedEx and Pittsburgh heavy maintenance tracks closed and mechanics furloughed. Then the company could enter into an agreement with Embraer to be the second EMB-190/195 customer and use these aircraft to replace the remaining B737s (about 50).

Then in the next 2.5 years or sooner, the Pittsburgh maintenance facility could be closed and all A320 family and EMB-170/175/190/195 heavy maintenance outsourced. Next the A330, A321, and A320 orders could be used to replace the B767/B757s and the Charlotte overhaul facility closed, except for heavy maintenance on 19 A330s.

The IAM is about to enter a very risky proceeding where the odds favor the company who has won most grievances from a historical perspective.

If it’s not to late, the IAM may want to enter into “Going Forward Planâ€￾ negotiations, if the union has not already become irrelevant.

Respectfully,

USA320Pilot

 

[cavalier]

Well at least we will have a resolution shortly.

For organized labor I see the whole thing as a Lose-Lose proposition. It's just a question of how, where or when.

IAM has placed a lot of chips on one big bet and I sincerely hope they win. I don't like the union as an organization as I remain unconvinced that they represent the interests of the US Airways employees instead of the overall interests of the IAM as a whole.

What choice is there? What brought us to this point?

It's well documented, your feelings on unions, just read your every other post and it glares.

You seem to be a man with all the answers, funny you're not running a billion dollar corporation with all that pent up wisdom that desperately wants to vent.

Funny how like 700 says; so many including non-U employees like yourself are obsessed with the IAM! Wonder why that is?

Gee, maybe we should get you to arbitrate this issue.

Ok Bob, I feel better now, I vented.

 

[usfliboi]

Ya got that right!!! Oldie :angry:

tit for tat!!!! and i know for a fact its you before me ..... please kitty if you dont have something nice to say , say it to me, ill respond in kind....

 

[usfliboi]

Cav babe i agree with bob, its a lose lose sit u aaaa tion, im afa oh thats rt i dont agree with you and 700 so i can be union sorry

 

[PITbull]

The response here would be, IAM will lose either way. Theres no positive outcome regardless of his ruling. If and i do mean if, he ruled in favor of Iam what have you gained? Regardless cuts and layoffs are still a coming.

usfliboi,

You are definitely incorrect on this one, and I know you just didn't take the time to think the"outcome" through. You still remain in denial.


If the IAM wins, THIS WILL BE THE SUREST WAY TO ENSURE AS MANY JOBS AS POSSBILE BECAUSE U NEEDS MECHANICS TO WORK ON THE AIRBUS A/C.If the IAM loses, the the writing is on the wall when they phase out the boeings.


THEY MUST WIN THIS!

 

[cavalier]

Cav babe i agree with bob, its a lose lose sit u aaaa tion, im afa oh thats rt i dont agree with you and 700 so i can be union sorry

Here's the thing fly-baby...I don't care what you think; at least Bob makes sense from time to time.

 

[700UW]

Blah blah blah, the sky is falling!

Your track record is as good as Miss Cleo.

Don't worry your new employer John Orenstien will take good care of you!

And Cav, I have to agree with you, funny how a320pilot and usfliboi are obsessed with the IAM while their own house is burning down!

Oh, and we are not betting, we have 54 years of overhauling every plane we have ever flown and all the company's proposals where they admit and agree it is our work. So when we win, I will smoke that big cuban cigar and laugh at those obsessed with the IAM, who is standing up for its members and it contract!

 

[PITbull]

Bob,

Take your "eye" off the IAM ball as an organization for a minute, if you will.



The IAM IS THE ONLY ORGANIZATION REPRESENTING THE MECHANICS ON THIS PROPERTY. Whether you like them, hate them, dispise the organization for whatever you would like to conjure up....it is what it is

AND THE IAM ARE THE ONLY LAWYERS IN TOWN FOR THIS CAUSE!!!!!!