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[MERV]

Are you nuckin' futs?.... Seriously, Bob. Do you have any idea how many student visas are issued for students from Europe each year?

Try 61,000 of them. The average enrollment of two large state universities...

And that's just F-1 student visas. Exchange program visas are a J-1.

I agree Oxford and Cambridge are excellent universities, but surely you know Oxford ain't free. Tuition for next year starts at £3,290 (unless you're on welfare). Students from overseas & outside the EU start at £12,000.

By comparison, I will agree it is affordable -- in-state tuition where I live is $9,500 ($24,000 for non-residents).

And surely you know admission to university in Europe is by no means a guaranteed thing. "Oxbridge" admit one of every 5 applicants, which is on par with Duke and Georgetown. Statistically, you still have a far greater chance of being admitted (even as a foreign student) to a US university, which is why so many come here. Schools like Rutgers, U of Illinois and U of Michigan (ranked in top 40 globally), all excellent schools, typically accept 3 out of every 5 applicants.


As for your essay about Irish and Cuban health care... go for it. Move there. Just be aware you'll have more time off, but earn notably less than what you do here, even after you do the math for your insurance and education out of pockets. At least you'll be able to get free morphine shots next time you give birth to a stone.

Are you talking European cost of living is up their you get pay to be able to live there!!!!!
I have family member in a work/study program for the 9ms she there. she has 4weeks of vac and she get pay to able live in France one of biggest devepoled countries. Yeah unempoleyment might be up their because of the taxes that big business pays but still they get aid from the govt to stay there!!!!!

 

[FrugalFlyerv2.0]

In 2009 the population of Europe was estimated to be 830.4 million,

I would like to point out that the 830 million you quote includes among other things Russia (~140 million) and Turkey (~75 million).

The population of the EU is ~500 million (27 member states; countires that could be somewhat comparable to USA, although sh*tholes such as Romania, Hungary, Latvia, etc., are a part of the EU along with France, UK, Germany, etc).

J-1 Visas are basically working vacation Visas, kids come over here to find a Summer job, out in the Hamptons or in the city, party after working and go home when the Summer is over. Resturaunts and Hotels wouldnt be able to run without them.

Again not quite accurate. Whle J-1 visas can be issued for au pairs and camp counsellors, I believe the majority of J-1 visas are issued to scholars, physician trainees, graduate students, post-doctoral fellows and researchers at USA universities and government agencies such as the NIH.

 

[Rogallo]

ff: what the heck are we discussing here?

 

[AANOTOK]

ff: what the heck are we discussing here?

My thoughts exactly Rogallo! :blink:

 

[DallasConehead]

ff: what the heck are we discussing here?

I'm happy to see others recognize the masterful work of the corporate paid spin doctors. It is their job to spin serious subjects on this board.

 

[MCI transplant]

<_< -----Bob, do you feel the Pilots, and, or, Stews, would honor a TWU picket line?----- I think I know the answer to that, but would like your opinion! And if not, why not?

 

[Bob Owens]

<_< -----Bob, do you feel the Pilots, and, or, Stews, would honor a TWU picket line?----- I think I know the answer to that, but would like your opinion! And if not, why not?

I feel they would, they've both demonstrated their willingness to fight in the past, the APFA in 93 and the APA in 97.

The bigger question is would we go? The last time we fought back was 1969. We gave more to the company outside of BK than many carriers were able to initially get in BK. We have a very long history of rolling over.

 

[frontline]

Disagree. My friends at UA and US were gutted in bankruptcy. And the high earners got hit by the PBGC pension cap. We are far better off as a company and a workforce for not having gone BK. Look no further than the 17%+ United had to pay as interest on a loan last year. Their ability to raise capital at a reasonable price is just about nil. While they are tapped out, we have done ok despite the worst recession in a generation.

 

[MCI transplant]

Disagree. My friends at UA and US were gutted in bankruptcy. And the high earners got hit by the PBGC pension cap. We are far better off as a company and a workforce for not having gone BK. Look no further than the 17%+ United had to pay as interest on a loan last year. Their ability to raise capital at a reasonable price is just about nil. While they are tapped out, we have done ok despite the worst recession in a generation.

<_< ---- "Done O.K."!!? You must work in Tulsa! Tell that to someone working two jobs,with a family, who is just squawking by, living from paycheck to paycheck, who lives in New York, or Los Angles!!! :unsure: