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lpbrian said:This route also means there would have to be company maintenance in HNL since HNL-NRT would require an ETOPS 1 check.
Just out of curiosity, why don't you have mtx there now? Does "twin"flying to the mainland not require a etops 1 check?
My point was made with your response. You are there on business. To do a job not a mini vacation. Stay where you are put up and as long as they are not deplorable accomodations live with it. When you are on your own dime and on vacation they you can stay where ever you want.TransWorldONE said:I can't believe you asked this question...
Back in the day (about 10 years ago) I had a 75hr layover in Lisbon. I can't imagine spending that at the airport.
Operaations, you are a big one for everyone following the rules.operaations said:My point was made with your response. You are there on business. To do a job not a mini vacation. Stay where you are put up and as long as they are not deplorable accomodations live with it. When you are on your own dime and on vacation they you can stay where ever you want.
What is the difference between an ETOPS 1 and ETOPS 2 check. Isn't HNL-US mainland a longer over the water segment w/o diversion points than HNL-NRT?lpbrian said:This route also means there would have to be company maintenance in HNL since HNL-NRT would require an ETOPS 1 check.
No, we don't have mx there now. Return trips to the mainland require an ETOPS 2 check, which may be performed by contract mx. ETOPS 1 checks must be performed by company personel. I wonder if the company will try to get around this to avoid having to recall AMT's.
No we voted to give up the duty rig in exchange for. We voted or screwed in to voting in the min rest last April. With jw and dc planning there f/a screw job.MiAAmi said:You can vent your frustrations with John all you want, but remember we (as the membership voted to reduce the layover rest rather than take under fly.
A puzzle for Sunday morning!Rusty Bullethole said:Just a thought, has anybody considered that the HNL flight might originate in NRT, i.e. the A/C may fly say DFW-NRT-HNL-NRT-DFW? I'm not sure how this may work with crew scheduling, but I guess it may be a possibility.
Does AA have mechanics at NRT? If so, problem solved, ETOPS 1 check at the flight origination on the US mainland for the outgoing and Japan for the return with an ETOPS 2 check at HNL during the stopover.jimntx said:It would not be an easy schedule to build. You couldn't do "pure" lines because just 2 trips/month would be 80 hours of flying time. Isn't the max line on Int'l 75 hours? Doesn't Int'l also have a 30-in-7 rule also that would have to be waived?
I don't understand. We weren't talking about NRT-HNL-DFW; so, there wouldn't be a flight through HNL to the mainland. And, if there is a layover after each leg, how is the duty limit exceeded--other than a 30-in-7 limit?TWAnr said:I don't think that crews can work through flights from Tokyo through Honolulu to the US mainland without violating duty limits. Thus, it would not matter if the plane is routed NRT-HNL-NRT because, in any event, there will be a crew change in Hawaii.