AA Applies For LAX-GDL, MIA-MTY

[WorldTraveler]

IOW, you can't counter the facts that have been presented so you will turn to character attacks - because they have proven so successful in the past in creating a climate here of mutual respect?

I didn't reopen the discussion about AA's performance on the JFK transcons.

someone here decided to pull a single set of statistics out of the closet that they thought would show that AA had won yet another contentious discussion on this board.

Because they picked out a single key statistic and not the whole picture, it didn't take too long to present the whole story that showed that AA did little to help itself but did a whole lot to help every other nonstop carrier in the market with DL gaining the most.

if that reality is something you don't want to hear, then I would suggest making sure you and others do your homework a whole lot more carefully before reopening topics - whether it be about NYC, LAX, or any other business related topic.

 

[FrugalFlyerv2.0]

No sir,.  You have been proven to be a fraud.
Multiple times you have been caught fabricating data.  When confronted, as recently as in the last 24hrs you come up with a statement like "I pulled the data from my memory." 
What's worse is that you later on repeat the same lies and mis-inforrmation and try to pass it on as a fact, when it is an outright lie!
You're a liar a fraud (spectator anyone?) and a fool.  The more you post the more you reveal about yourself.

 

[WorldTraveler]

You simply want to engage in character assassination because I have once again found that AA screwed up yet one more strategy which everyone one on here swore on their mother's deathbed would be right, and it has proven to be wrong.

I have fabricated nothing.

AA screwed up with its strategy, I said it would backfire, you and others tried to defend and it is obvious that you are the frauds who don't have the integrity to admit that AA was wrong.

AA's transcon strategy likely did little to reduce its costs, gave it a small increase in yield but a drop in total revenues, while other carriers benefitted far more

grow up and show some integrity or don't discuss subjects where you can be shown to be wrong.

engaging in character assassination of others because they provide facts you don't want to see says a whole lot more about the way you operate than me.

 

[FrugalFlyerv2.0]

grow up and show some integrity or don't discuss subjects where you can be shown to be wrong.

 
Why don't you lead by example.

 

[WorldTraveler]

I'm happy to walk away from the topic which someone else reopened and where they were shown to be wrong.

I am not going to allow you or anyone else to engage in character assassination including telling me that I am a fraud because I posted data that you don't like or want to see.

If you don't like the fact that data shows that AA's JFK transcon strategy did more to help AA's competitors than AA, then just move on.

calling me a fraud doesn't change the facts of what AA did and lost. Continuing to hammer me only provides me with an opportunity to continue to highlight AA's strategic error.

 

[FrugalFlyerv2.0]

I'm happy to walk away from the topic which someone else reopened and where they were shown to be wrong.

I am not going to allow you or anyone else to engage in character assassination including telling me that I am a fraud because I posted data that you don't like or want to see.

If you don't like the fact that data shows that AA's JFK transcon strategy did more to help AA's competitors than AA, then just move on.

calling me a fraud doesn't change the facts of what AA did and lost. Continuing to hammer me only provides me with an opportunity to continue to highlight AA's strategic error.

 
The Whole Truth is that you cannot walk away.
 

 
 
Every single thread in every single forum you have to have to have the last word.  And that word is always about the greatness of DL while backslapping other carriers.
 
You are a fraud and a liar.  Your >16000 posts are filled with evidence proving this.
 
You don't post facts, or rarely do so and only very reluctantly when challenged,
 
You've made up definitions, fabricated statistics and rounded up numbers on a routine basis.
 
Nobody is buying your crocodile tears about character assassination while you disparage other posters who do not have the same opinion like you.  You've even had the gall to threatened other posters on here with termination and legal action.  Grow up.

 

[700UW]

+1,000.000!

 

[WorldTraveler]

no the simple fact is that FWAAA decided to reopen a topic about AA's JFK transcon strategy that has been discussed over and over again.

I said before it ever flew and the data is confirming that AA could not get its yield up high enough to offset its increased costs as a result of adding capacity and that other carriers would benefit.

the only real surprise is that the market as a whole has benefitted as much as it has.

feel free to call me a fraud all day long.

the simple fact is that AA's strategy was wrong from the perspective of total revenue and that a host of people who have tried to defend it repeatedly are confronted with facts that they don't want to see.

have a modicum of common sense and admit that AA was wrong, walk away from the topic, and quit calling me a fraud because I present data that you don't want to see.

btw, this topic is about AA's expansion of LAX and MIA to Latin America where I have repeatedly said that other carriers would expand if AA chose to grow into other carrier key markets.

so far, AM has announced MIA-MTY service and DL has continued to add capacity at LAX at a rate as fast as what AA has done and DL has now eclipsed UA as the 2nd largest carrier at LAX.

Feel free to let me know where the "predictions" I made are wrong.

 

[700UW]

Now you say AA added capacity but yet you claimed AA had a 40% reduction in coach seats and that was just another one of your lies.

 

[WorldTraveler]

again, you distort even the most basic aspects of arguments.

AA added back capacity via increased frequencies because of the lower number of seats on the 321 vs the 762.

it has been discussed here multiple times.

 

[700UW]

No others pointed that fact out to you, yet you still ran with your misinformation.

 

[WorldTraveler]

No one other than you have failed to understand that AA's capacity was reduced because of the reduced size of the 321 but capacity was added back via increased frequencies which increased the percentage of premium seats but left coach and overall capacity reduced.

it's been discussed so many times that any one that has even remotely participated in the discussion understands it.

again, this discussion is about AA's expansion into Latin America from MIA and LAX. Care to debate the issues I have raised on those topics?

 

[robbedagain]

FWAA proved you wrong   as I expected you FAILED to ADMIT YOURE WRONG   You spin deflect no matter what  even when you are proven WRONG you cannot stand to admit youre wrong    PLANE N SIMPLE

 

[WorldTraveler]

I fully expected you would try to jump into the argument, robbed.

No FWAAA proved nothing other than that AA increased its average fares and lost overall revenue in the process.

don't try to throw dirt when you haven't even begun to understand let alone reiterate the points of the discussion.

 

[LD3]

 

don't try to throw dirt when you haven't even begun to understand let alone reiterate the points of the discussion.

 
And yet you look for respect....