AA Applies For LAX-GDL, MIA-MTY

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Perhaps UA, as you have stated is strong in Mexico that they do not need a codeshare/JV partner.  DL on the other hand needs Aeromexico to be competitive. 
 
Just because DL does things a certain way does not mean that every other carrier needs to copy DL.  I know you think that way, but the world isn't like that.  Sorry to burst your bubble.
 
and yet AA immediately chose to seek a JV partner. I didn't tell AA that they needed a partner to Mexico - which I believe they had before.

It is apparent that the airlines that have hubs in Texas have a geographic advantage to Mexico.

whether DL is at a disadvantage or not, there is a big difference in the size and scope of the Mexican airlines - and DL has an equity stake in the largest one - and DL and AM will have a JV.

I suspect that AA recognizes with the addition of these two routes that they need to get themselves into the top markets that they don't serve given the changing airline dynamics that will take place between the US and Mexico.

Since DL doesn't break out performance by country or hub (and neither does any carrier), it is hard to know that DL needs AM but the investments in AM and G3 in Brazil have paid off, DL will build on those partnerships, and I would fully expect that AA will do what it has to do for its own franchise as well.

I hope it doesn't burst your bubble to realize that the airline industry is highly competitive and AA and DL and UA are all fully aware of what they have to try to do to win in the marketplace.
 
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and yet AA immediately chose to seek a JV partner. I didn't tell AA that they needed a partner to Mexico - which I believe they had before.
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Right off the bat you were gloating about DL + AM.  Now you're spinning, deflecting as usual.
 
and there were multiple replies that included DL before I ever participated in this thread.

and my question was simply what airline AA had chosen to partner with in Mexico.

LAX-GDL is a major market which AA does not but has served, right? and it doesn't take rocket science to see who does serve it and why it is strategically important for AA to serve that and other markets that other carriers do serve but which AA or Interjet does not.
 
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and there were multiple replies that included DL before I ever participated in this thread.
 
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Have you ever heard of sarcasm?  Or is every mention of DL sacrilege?  You do realize idolatry is a sin?
 
we could get into theology if you want, but it is hard to accuse someone of sinning for doing something for which they had no ill intents.

It is a whole lot easier to argue that sarcasm is where the sin actually lies than accuse someone of something that you - not they - perceive.
 
looks like AM has an interest in serving MIA-MTY as well.

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/aeromexico-announces-monterrey-miami-route-233200583.html

MONTERREY, Mexico, Jan. 27, 2015 /PRNewswire/ -- Aeromexico, Mexico's global airline, announces the beginning of its new, nonstop daily flight service from Terminal B at the Monterrey International Airport in northern Mexico, to Miami, Florida in the United States as of March 26th, this Spring. This new service will offer passengers the possibility of taking a daily flight between these two cities on board a 76-seat Embraer 170 airliner from one of Aeromexico's major hubs in northern Mexico.
 
I'm sure it will come, Mark, but it also means that there will be more competition because other carriers are not sitting still either including via the JVs and US-Mexico airline partnerships that will come.

LAX to Mexico is competitive - and it is also worth noting that AS is in a lot of those markets.... so once again, AA's need to grow its own network from LAX might well step on AS' toes.

Texas to Mexico will become VERY competitive in the next few years.

nonetheless, AA has to act to protect its current position and try to find new advantages in the amrket.
 
Blah blah blah AA has competition.  Thanks for the newsflash.  In the meantime, so does everybody else.  Next.
 
Only thing that is daily is the already announced LAX-GDL and 6x MIA-MTY. The rest are sat dep, sun returns. Better than nothing. I'm happy for any additions. Oops, the MIA-BAQ is daily as well. Now let's bring on the rumored LAX additions! Asia and some more domestic fill in the dots.
 
and as I have repeatedly said, if AA moves to add service into markets in which other carriers are stronger, it will likely result in those carriers adding service into key AA markets. and the same is equally true. It comes down to who has the best prospects of gaining more long-term. There is no doubt that the MIA-Latin America market that DL could pick up is FAR bigger than what AA could get in Latin America, no matter how many gates they have.

and DL's addition of both LAX-LHR and LAX-PVG, both of which arrive at the TBIT, dismisses the notion that DL is limited in LAX because of gate space.

Given that DL is the largest carrier from LAX to Latin America, if AA decides to start service in a number of markets which DL now serves from LAX, it will likely result in a larger expansion at MIA by DL and its soon to be joint venture partner AM as well as its codeshare partner G3 and other Skyteam carriers.


 
Blah blah blah AA has competition.  Thanks for the newsflash.  In the meantime, so does everybody else.  Next.
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and yet it is clear from 4th quarter results that not all carriers fared as well in the revenue creation department....

AA PRASM down 1%, capacity up 1.7%
AS PRASM down 2.4%, capacity up 10.6%
B6 PRASM up 0.1%, capacity up 7%
DL PRASM up 0.8%, capacity up 3.7%
UA PRASM up 0.4%, capacity up 0.9%
WN PRASM up 2.6%, capacity up 2.4%

Despite having the 2nd lowest rate of capacity growth in an industry that is fairly aggressively growing, AA's PRASM was down the 2nd highest, beat only by AS which is throwing capacity into SEA left and right because of the carrier that managed to add the most capacity of the big 4. Notably, IIRC, DL had the highest domestic RASM increase of the big 4.

so, there is a difference in how carriers handling competition, esp. in the domestic marketplace.
 
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And AA's operating expenses were down I believe it was 4% or 9% can't remember the exact number.
 
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