A330s

[700UW]

Isnt this thread about where the A330s are going for their mods, not the routes they fly or could fly?

 

[cynic]

Isnt this thread about where the A330s are going for their mods, not the routes they fly or could fly?

I'm just amazed that we're on page two and it hasn't devolved into the usual suspects turning it into an east-west or union fight yet.

 

[BoeingBoy]

And this is about where they go for mods?

Wonder if good ole Dr Bronner gets a kickback?

Jim

 

[LD3]

And this is about where they go for mods?


Jim

Point goes to ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Jim..

 

[Iclubbabyseals]

BA would pull out of PHX if we started service to Europe.

Because US feeds BA? or, you think BA would just otherwise defer to US? Perhaps Mr. Mugshot could get the US government to offer and BA would accept, say, FAT instead of PHX?

Don't know if the 330 or even 332 would be considered "reliable enough" PHX to Europe considering the 330 max gross single engine performance on a sea level standard day would seem to be eclipsed by a Piper Apache single engine rate of climb.

 

[jimntx]

BA would pull out of PHX if we started service to Europe.

Why? BA is part of OneWorld. And, (I speak from experience) any U.S. airline would have to step up its game considerably to take customers away from BA--especially, F/C and B/C.

 

[nycbusdriver]

PHX is a somewhat more competitive connecting point between the west coast and Europe than PHL and definitely better than CLT.

Jim

Yes, of course BoingoBoyo. The fact that each European city from PHX takes two airplanes, instead of one, to provide service makes it OH SO competitive vs. PHL or CLT.

 

[BoeingBoy]

Don't confuse less costly and more competitive...better stick to driving your taxi.

Jim

 

[nycbusdriver]

Isnt this thread about where the A330s are going for their mods, not the routes they fly or could fly?

Every autumn they pull down A330s to do the mods, yet every spring we get the same A330s back without any mods that anyone can see. How many years of winter pulldowns before the Envoy mods get into the A330-300s? (If ever.)

 

[nycbusdriver]

Don't confuse less costly and more competitive...better stick to driving your taxi.

Jim

Oh. Costs have nothing to do with competitiveness. "We lose $100 on every ticket, but we make it up in volume."

What a moron.

(Be sure to report that to the moderators. I still have a fair amount of "Warn Status" remaining.)

 

[BoeingBoy]

Oh. Costs have nothing to do with competitiveness.

I suppose you think that US should eliminate everything that costs extra - FC, clubs, meals/snacks/drinks, whatever. Hey, GIG takes two airplane...better drop that route. Look how "competitive" the product would be, since you think competitive is all about lower cost... :wacko:

Jim

 

[700UW]

And this is about where they go for mods?


Jim

And you conveniently didnt quote the whole post now did you?

Usually the A330 goes to Singapore Technologies Mobile Aerospace in Mobile, AL.

Wonder if good ole Dr Bronner gets a kickback?

 

[BoeingBoy]

And you conveniently didnt quote the whole post now did you?

No I didn't, only the part that had nothing to do with where the 330's are going for the interior refit. You're big on playing moderator and telling others what they shouldn't post but poor at following your own rules.

Jim

 

[700UW]

Ok, two can play this game, lets see how many of your posts have nothing to do with the topic at hand.

1.

Unless US decides to start Asia service first, which would almost have to be from PHX, the first will probably be the A350's to Europe from PHX. PHX is a somewhat more competitive connecting point between the west coast and Europe than PHL and definitely better than CLT.

Jim

2.

Western Europe, yes. Anything else would be a stretch westbound. Remember that max range comes with max fuel, which usually means limiting passenger/cargo weight. I'm not sure that there's a current model transport aircraft where you can fill the seats and tanks and be legal. I agree that PHL-Asia would get A350's before PHX-Europe unless an economic meltdown in Asia affected the profitability of Asia flights.

Jim

3.

Although PHX-Asia is northwesterly from PHX (not that much different than PHX-ANC), I don't expect to see Asia service till after the A350's arrive and they'll first be used for Europe from the east coast before PHX-Europe. Here's my forecast/timeline, which could change with economic conditions in Europe/Asia:

A332's replace 767's
767 either replace older 757's or go back to leasor's
A350 east coast-Europe, replacing 767's or additional service
A350 east coast-Asia
A350 PHX-Europe
A350 PHX-Asia

Jim

4.

Don't confuse less costly and more competitive...better stick to driving your taxi.

Jim

5.

I suppose you think that US should eliminate everything that costs extra - FC, clubs, meals/snacks/drinks, whatever. Hey, GIG takes two airplane...better drop that route. Look how "competitive" the product would be, since you think competitive is all about lower cost... :wacko:

Jim

6.

No I didn't, only the part that had nothing to do with where the 330's are going for the interior refit. You're big on playing moderator and telling others what they shouldn't post but poor at following your own rules.

Jim

Gee thats six posts that had nothing to do with the topic at hand, and yes I left out the one you wrote about me.

 

[Barrister]

Unless US decides to start Asia service first, which would almost have to be from PHX, the first will probably be the A350's to Europe from PHX. PHX is a somewhat more competitive connecting point between the west coast and Europe than PHL and definitely better than CLT.

Jim

There is no fool like an old fool!!!
You think PHX will see anything to China before PHL....
rant on old man rant on!!

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