A321T

[WorldTraveler]

no, I'm focused on the discussion and not to shoot at people unlike people like the duasdf mechanic from NW.

I have said nothing against you personally in this discussion... I just don't agree with your data and I have no idea where you are going with it.

Again, what is your point even regarding JFK-LAX? we've gone thru it a number of time s and I have yet to see any evidence that AA came out ahead with its 321T strategy.

increased average fares and increased frequency that offset the more efficient aircraft along with a loss of cargo revenue doesn't translate into increased profitability

if you have data to support that notion, I'd love to see it.

 

[cltrat]

FWAAA:

You need not travel under the bridge to play the troll's fantasy airline analyst game.

Everyone here knows that it has zero credibility. He is literally a running joke here.

I appreciate your posts, but giving him any audience is like feeding the gremlin after midnight.

the only reason I don't put the clown on ignore is I remain hopeful of a repeat of his epic meltdown when the AA/US meager happened and he hijacked every thread on this board whining like a spoiled 5 year old. It's the funniest thing I have ever seen on here and nothing is  close second.lmao

 

[WorldTraveler]

and yet a year into the merger and it is amazing how many of the things I said were wrong with the merger are now happening... AA's RASM is leading the industry down, labor costs are already up over $800M just from the pilots and FAs.

so, feel free to bring up the merger if you'd like, but the more I see, the more I am convinced that my opposition to the AA/US merger was right.

presumably you are one of the US employees who have done swimmingly well as a result of the merger - and I am happy for you. but the economics of the merger and the competitive directions that AA and US were both going before the merger haven't changed as a result of the merger.

 

[700UW]

http://youtu.be/FMEe7JqBgvg

 

[Rogallo]

Grow up!

 

[WorldTraveler]

yes, 700 is no better than the dumb former NW mechanic.

if you don't agree with what is being said, have the mental wherewithal to put your thoughts on the table or be man (or woman) enough to walk away.

all that has been proven once again is the complete lack of maturity that some have about discussing business aspects of the industry in a constructive fashion.

it's no wonder with that kind of display of character that 5000 of NW's highest paid ground employees were removed from the payroll rather effortlessly and NW achieved a huge chunk of its BK labor cost reduction just by letting AMFA cut its own throat.

meanwhile, specific to JFK-LAX which isn't even the topic of this thread, I am still waiting for someone to show me that AA is better off financially given the loss of cargo revenue, offset of lower fuel costs by adding back frequencies, and increased personnel costs due to the merger.

and the best close-to-suggestion I have heard from anyone is keeping some more 757s around for AA to fly transcons.

 

[700UW]

Your such a hypocrite, you whine and cry when someone calls you names and you do the very same behavior, and you wonder why you are the World Fraudster.

 

[WorldTraveler]

not sure what names you think I called someone are wrong but are you trying to argue that the NW mechanic and their union was anything other than dumb?

I'm sure we'll hear something along the lines of "standing up for the profession" but most of the talk we hear about the aftermath of AMFA is accusations about scabs at DL. Once again, the best advocates for remaining non-union are those who have seen the disasters that unions have made of airlines - and the AMFA chapter at NW has got to be one of the biggest reasons to think twice and then twice again about being a part of a a union that thinks they are going to show mgmt.

and dumb is the only word I can think of to describe the strategy and the person who thinks they can drop into another thread only to spread crap and expect that my response will be anything different.

 

[ThirdSeatHero]

not sure what names you think I called someone are wrong but are you trying to argue that the NW mechanic and their union was anything other than dumb?

I'm sure we'll hear something along the lines of "standing up for the profession" but most of the talk we hear about the aftermath of AMFA is accusations about scabs at DL. Once again, the best advocates for remaining non-union are those who have seen the disasters that unions have made of airlines - and the AMFA chapter at NW has got to be one of the biggest reasons to think twice and then twice again about being a part of a a union that thinks they are going to show mgmt.

and dumb is the only word I can think of to describe the strategy and the person who thinks they can drop into another thread only to spread crap and expect that my response will be anything different.

 
Your ignorant take on what happened at NWA is laughable, the fact that you again try to spin it with your typical anti-union sycophantic zeal is even more so.
 
 
NWA was going bankrupt, so spending money like a drunken sailor on replacements I'm sure had nothing to do with it.
 
Then there was the FAA inspector, whose warnings about  the scabs sub-standard maintenance went unheeded.
 
Then there was the associated industries backlash that most ignored.
 
 
 
Funny, dumb, stupid, idiotic ... take your pick, as all have come to mind at one point or another whenever you see fit to try and drop your latest example of drooling Delta worship into every corner of this forum.

 

[LD3]

the troll is you i who has to stick your my #### nose into a conversation to do nothing but to smear #### lies.

 

I think this looks better... ^^^^^

 

[cltrat]

and yet a year into the merger and it is amazing how many of the things I said were wrong with the merger are now happening... AA's RASM is leading the industry down, labor costs are already up over $800M just from the pilots and FAs.

so, feel free to bring up the merger if you'd like, but the more I see, the more I am convinced that my opposition to the AA/US merger was right.

presumably you are one of the US employees who have done swimmingly well as a result of the merger - and I am happy for you. but the economics of the merger and the competitive directions that AA and US were both going before the merger haven't changed as a result of the merger.

actually if I could buy you for what you're worth and sell you for what you think your worth I could go ahead and retire

 

[robbedagain]

does anyone know if the 321T could do LGA cross country with the configuration they have set up for the JFK-LAX/SFO flights?

 

[FWAAA]

does anyone know if the 321T could do LGA cross country with the configuration they have set up for the JFK-LAX/SFO flights?

Nobody knows for sure, but the assumption throughout the last few pages of this thread is that the answer is "No."

The A321 is underpowered compared to the 757 (or 738) and thus probably needs more than 7,000 feet of runway to takeoff even with just 102 passengers, especially on a warm day. Reason is that A321s need pretty full tanks to make it to the west coast. 757s are well-powered and don't require much runway to takeoff, even for westbound transcons. 738s might be able to do it if they had no more than maybe 80-85 passengers (configured like the A321T). Smaller planes like the A319 or 73G could do it easily, but they would not hold very many passengers with a premium-heavy configuration.

Anyway, the odds are very slim that the LGA perimeter rule is eliminated. Odds are, transcons will still require JFK or EWR, with their very long runways.

 

[topDawg]

it is only a joke because you are incapable of understanding concepts as advanced as what is involved here.

FWAAA is at least trying. Problem is he is arguing a point which no one is doubting.

the question he can't answer is how AA's strategy AT JFK of shrinking revenue made sense when it has added back as much as it cut in costs by using higher frequencies.

if you want to argue that the strategy made sense in SFO, it would be a little easier to understand.

again, FWAAA is trying to discuss concepts even if they are related to JFK transcons - which isn't applicable to LGA longhaul if it even happens... you have NEVER proven you either understand them or are capable of speaking to them.

the troll is you who has to stick your #### nose into a conversation to do nothing but to smear ####.

I thank AMFA every day that they made certain you didn't come to DL.

can't be nearly as much as we thank goodness Delta got rid of you a while ago. 

 

[robbedagain]

Thanks fwaa