$25 For 2nd Jumpseater

[Cfm56]

Here's hoping I get a 2nd jumpseater on my airplane who is an AirTran pilot so I can charge him $25 as they do and let him see how that feels. (AirTran policy is to charge all jumpseaters after the first one $25).

 

[Dizel8]

Here's hoping I get a 2nd jumpseater on my airplane who is an AirTran pilot so I can charge him $25 as they do and let him see how that feels. (AirTran policy is to charge all jumpseaters after the first one $25).

[post="278781"][/post]​

Don't work for AirTran, so I do agree,however, it certainly beats being left at the gate, even though there are open seats like some airlines are want to do!

Hopefully we will eventually see umlimited jumpseats at all the carriers and hopefully they will also apply to F/A's.

 

[DonVerita]

Here's hoping I get a 2nd jumpseater on my airplane who is an AirTran pilot so I can charge him $25 as they do and let him see how that feels. (AirTran policy is to charge all jumpseaters after the first one $25).

[post="278781"][/post]​

Do you think the AirTran pilots endorse this? If so, you are an idiot sir. This is another display of a greedy, uncaring management. The pilots want unlimited jumpseats for all Part 121 carriers. Hopefully in the new contract currently in negotiations, they will get it. Their union has made it a priority.

In the meantime, you have a choice:

If you are the first jumpseater in line, you get to ride for free...just like Delta's policy. If you are the second jumpseater in line, you can wait for the next flight...just like Delta's policy -OR- you can purchase a Walk-Up Pass for $25 right there at the gate without having to go through your Pass Dept., your ticket counter, or anywhere else. Delta doesn't give you that option, nor do many other carriers. Sometimes the gate agents will waive this if a supervisor isn't around.

So don't blame the pilots or the gate agents for something you obviously know nothing about.

 

[UALDC767]

Do you think the AirTran pilots endorse this? If so, you are an idiot sir. This is another display of a greedy, uncaring management. The pilots want unlimited jumpseats for all Part 121 carriers. Hopefully in the new contract currently in negotiations, they will get it. Their union has made it a priority.

In the meantime, you have a choice:

If you are the first jumpseater in line, you get to ride for free...just like Delta's policy. If you are the second jumpseater in line, you can wait for the next flight...just like Delta's policy -OR- you can purchase a Walk-Up Pass for $25 right there at the gate without having to go through your Pass Dept., your ticket counter, or anywhere else. Delta doesn't give you that option, nor do many other carriers. Sometimes the gate agents will waive this if a supervisor isn't around.

So don't blame the pilots or the gate agents for something you obviously know nothing about.

[post="281191"][/post]​

It been a couple of years, but I would purchase a $20 or $25 walk up on the Delta Shuttle when the jumpseat was filled, if I needed to be on that specific flight.

DC

 

[DonVerita]

It been a couple of years, but I would purchase a $20 or $25 walk up on the Delta Shuttle when the jumpseat was filled, if I needed to be on that specific flight.

DC

[post="281477"][/post]​

And you didn't hear anybody chastising the Delta pilots about that...

 

[UALDC767]

And you didn't hear anybody chastising the Delta pilots about that...

[post="281510"][/post]​

Well technically it wasn't $25 for the jumpseat, more like an ID 90. or a great interline rate. So I didnt view it as gouging the jumpseater. The policy was one jumpseat, one jumpseater. Somedays I paid and somedays I waited for the next shuttle, depended upon the loads and timing.

UAL currently has the same policy, number of jumpseater = number of jumpseats in the cockpit. That is changing towards the end of September when we go to unlimited jumpseats. (after all other nonrevs have been boarded)

Hopefully the wave of unlimited jumpseats will spread throughout the industry.

DC

 

[ac500]

Here's hoping I get a 2nd jumpseater on my airplane who is an AirTran pilot so I can charge him $25 as they do and let him see how that feels. (AirTran policy is to charge all jumpseaters after the first one $25).

[post="278781"][/post]​

Cfm ,

Please tell, what is your position? Are you a captain or a flight attendant ? Or just someone wanting to stir something up?

 

[eolesen]

Why should the highest paid workgroup get unlimited free OAL travel? I've seen cases on flights to MEM where we've had nine and ten FedEx pilots riding for free. Same thing in/out of SDF with UPS.

Then again, they won't pay for a newspaper either, so I guess I shouldn't be surprised. Oh yeah, it was negotiated. I forgot....

If they're occupying a seat in the cabin, charging $25 beyond the number of physical jumpseats seems to be fair. Airlines absorb the taxes and fees which jumpseaters would otherwise pay, and which other employees wind up paying thru a ZED or ID90.

 

[corl737]

Oh yeah, it was negotiated. I forgot....

[post="283328"][/post]​

Therein lies the entire answer to your question.

Contracts are beautiful things, aren't they?

Airlines absorb the taxes and fees which jumpseaters would otherwise pay, and which other employees wind up paying thru a ZED or ID90.

I believe that at most airlines jumpseaters are officially listed as members of the crew. They are therefore not assessed taxes or fees. Anyone know if it's different at AirTran or elsewhere? :huh:

 

[eolesen]

Definitely not the case at any airline I've worked for. Unless their name shows up on the GenDecs, the airline gets taxed at the same rate any other employee does.

 

[UALDC767]

Definitely not the case at any airline I've worked for. Unless their name shows up on the GenDecs, the airline gets taxed at the same rate any other employee does.

[post="284423"][/post]​

GenDecs are used for the international flights.

Cockpit jumpseaters are official members of the crew in the eyes of the FAA. So much so that the UAL official term for them is "Observer, member of Crew (OMC)" Even if sitting in the cabin they are not allowed to drink alcohol. And as such are included in the empty weight of the aircraft. So no weight restrictions for OMC either. (only for the seats in the cockpit, unlimited would potentially be restricted)

And as far as pilots being the highest paid workgroup....HAH!!!!!! What about upper management? Or didn't you include them since they don't work.

Why the animosity towards pilots?

And yes it is a negotiated item/benefit. The pilots, over the years have given something up elsewhere in the contract, in return to get the cockpit jumpseats.

You want to travel non rev on other airlines....no problem, negotiate it.

DC

 

[coolflyingfool]

I am not sure how the whole thing works, but if there is an open seat for a pilot to jump-seat on, why charge him? I am sure this helps to prevent people from trying to fly all over for free, while appearing to be coming from or going to work. That is if all non-revs have to pay. Policy just seems a little odd to me.

 

[nycbusdriver]

I think the problem here is that there is a perception of a $25 fee to ride the jumpseat. It sounds like AirTran only allows the number of jumpseat riders which matches the actual number of cockpit jumpseats. This was policy at most carriers for ages and only slowly started being relaxed in the last ten years or so.

I think it's great that AirTran even allows a $25 interline walk-up pass. It's a great convenience not having to get passes from one's own ticket counter in advance.

It would be nice to allow extra jumpseaters to ride for free in the cabin when space is otherwise empty. Give the AirTran pilots time to work it out. You're not paying $25 for the imagined "second jumpseat." You're paying $25 to pass-ride when the real jumpseat is already taken.

 

[LGA777]

Is this $25 walk up interline pass for jumpseaters only, or as another airline employee who is not jump seat eligible able to use this? My airline does have a $25 svc charge agreement with Air Tran but it requires going to my airline ticket counter and not many agents seem to know how to ticket it. $25 at the gate would be really nice.

Thanks in advance for a reply.

LGA777

 

[Bus Driver]

Hi NYC,

The one time I rode the Air Tran jumpseat, I was the second request and the gate supervisor waived the 25 dollar fee.

I didn't even know about it, the other jumpseater told me about it.

Everyone treated me like royalty.

Thanks Air Tran for the ride!

Bus Driver