2015 Pilot Discussion.

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luvthe9 said:
The only thing that's been buzzing in his head are the two times they turned down their beloved NIC.
 
Oh hardly. I sadly suspect that "buzzing in his head" has long-proved a lifetime problem for the poor boy.  From his earlier postings it seems that a "varsity letterman jacket", as opposed to anything even remotely approaching notable athletic success, and being (however amazingly) actually hired at even the sad likes of AWA amount to his best/highest-ever "accomplishments" in life. One must honestly feel a bit sorry for the poor, appropriately self-titled "boy"....Of course per military accomplishments alone he has us all beat. How many of us could claim to be "spartan"...ummm...."soldiers" in nothing less than  the very "Army" of even "Leonidas" himself, after all? ;)
 
P.S. I of course, equally defer to the "spartans" on notions of being any "Patriot" myself...having never seen the need to spend $600+ dollars on some infantile "Liberty" tie to simply pretend and purely fantasize myself one. Silly me, but I thought you actually had to DO something to afford yourself even fantasies about being a "soldier"/"patriot"....but I guess if one can magically imagine "he's" some sort of supposed "spartan", then nothing from reality much counts at all. I'd guess such "thinking" works well with the whole farcical nonsense of being somehow "worthy" of usurping even as much as 17 years actually worked and EARNED seniority from your supposed "fellow pilots"...?
 
luvthe9 said:
Case 2:13-cv-00471-ROS Document 298 Filed 01/10/14 Page 10 of 22
Turning to the present case, the West Pilots claim USAPA breached its duty of fair
representation by “abandoning the existing obligation to use the Nicolau Award.” (Doc. 267
at 11). For present purposes, the Court will assume such an obligation existed. Therefore,
the question is whether USAPA had a legitimate union purpose for that abandonment. As
mentioned earlier, this would be an easier inquiry if USAPA had abandoned the Nicolau
Award in favor of a different seniority regime. The Court could then compare the Nicolau
Award to the new seniority regime and evaluate USAPA’s reasons for adopting the new
regime. But the complicated state of affairs means that, at present, there is no new seniority
regime directly comparable to the Nicolau Award. And, in fact, there never will be. The
merger with American Airlines, combined with the terms of the MOU, means a new seniority
regime will exist only after the McCaskill-Bond process is complete. That new seniority
regime will include the thousands of pilots from American Airlines and it will be difficult to
compare that regime to the Nicolau Award. Thus, the only question the Court can answer



Bye bye NIC!
 
cactusboy53 said:
USAPA: We never miss an opportunity to miss an opportunity.

Hey Dorothy.......you mean as opposed to Wye River and STL........now that is what I would call a missed opportunity.
 
cactusboy53 said:
"..he says most westicles realize their little NIC has been long dead and most are hoping for a fair deal with MB". 
 
OK. 

  • How exactly did he ascertain that "most westicles realize their little NIC has been long dead"?
  • Did he realize that the Nicolau Seniority list is the ONLY combined LUS list in existence that has been accepted and approved by US Airways management?
  • How about a name? 
  • Did he realize that Arbitrator Javiz COMPLETELY revealed "The Jess" in the pre-arbitration?
  • Did he realize you are quite possibly the most prolific liar here and that a simple introduction from him on the flight deck would be woven into a yarn of epic proportions?
Sorry Luvr.  You do nothing here but ATTEMPT to sew discontent.  Only 16 days until "THE JESS" is revealed.  Only 26 days until we begin to argue our case to a panel of neutral arbitrators that can deliver ANY list that they deem fair & equitable.  The Nic is not dead.  It's alive and breathing on Mr. Parker's desk.


"It's alive and breathing on Mr. Parkers desk"............. LMAO...



Hey Dorothy, your track record is simply stunning
 
cactusboy53 said:
You really should be less worried about WYE we chose not to negotiate AWAY from the product of an mutually agreed upon process. You should be more concerned about what the arbitrators will think of "The Jess" and how you will be BOUND by that agreement (just like the last). Sleep tight Buttercup. The walls are gonna tumble down.....
"The walls are gonna tumble down"........


You mean the walls around the PHX training center I presume.
 
Claxon said:
The PHX reps have honestly blown every opportunity that ever came their way. The above explains it all. Yet Simmons is honestly too stupid to comprehend reality. Time has proven that the west failure to deal at WYE cost them forever.
All you have to do is read every post Simmons makes, and you easily understand why. He quotes the Wake trial as if it has any legal standing. The rest is merely dicta.
Soon, they will make their final and most devasating blunder. The Legacy American pilots will finally see exactly what the problem is. Any chance they had for a reasonable solution will vanish.

I think everyone is in agreement on the above.



He still does not understand Wye the NIC can never happen.
 
EastUS1 said:
My personal "favorite" must remain the time that a great PHX "leader" was observed, virtually on his knees, directly asking the CEO (on company video) the deeply troublesome philosophical question of whether or not he "should turn in" supposedly fellow pilots for daring to taxi even heavy aircraft with both engines running. Perhaps most surprising there was the fact that the CEO didn't abuse the obvious opportunity offered and immediately demand said "leader" lick his shoe soles clean on camera as well.
 
"This is Sparta!"....yeah, I just couldn't even begin to describe just how truly "impressed" I've been with the the PHX bunch. "Crazy Susie" shown in that latest is merely symptomatic. Having said that: I do know that PHX contains both good people and fully respectable pilots who's hands I'd gladly shake....they just never much entered the fray, presumably since doing so would've cast them alongside the likes of "cap'n aux"/"crazy susie" et al.

With all due respect East, jmac wasn't asking whether he "should" turn in those pilots; he was asking how he " COULD" turn in his fellow pilots. The terminology he used indicates he was fully prepared and resolute within his own convictions to do so. I remember seeing the video and remember all too well his outburst, I wish I would have copied it and put it on youtube. But then again, YouTube has enough nonsense already posted by such rabid militant Spartans.

Crazy Suzy, I guess you heard of the Suzy arbitration, she is one and the same. That in itself should tell anyone all they need to know about this individual.
 
FL430 said:
With all due respect East, jmac wasn't asking whether he "should" turn in those pilots; he was asking how he " COULD" turn in his fellow pilots. The terminology he used indicates he was fully prepared and resolute within his own convictions to do so. I remember seeing the video and remember all too well his outburst, I wish I would have copied it and put it on youtube. But then again, YouTube has enough nonsense already posted by such rabid militant Spartans.

Crazy Suzy, I guess you heard of the Suzy arbitration, she is one and the same. That in itself should tell anyone all they need to know about this individual.
 
 1) Duly noted, and my recollection may be in error per merely "should" there. The pathetic creature's treacherous intent was made quite clear on either count though.
 
2) Indeed, but I thought to avoid the obvious observation that she hasn't much "aged well" in the interim, and might not now be recognizable to her "fans" of old.
 
EastUS1 said:
Here's a gentle hint for "you'se" sort of morons cactusboy: if you're too tired to fly, then DON'T take passengers' lives into you hands aloft...Period! The FAA provides for this contingency and you've no need of some hysterical hyena fantasizing about what "60 Minutes" would presumably have to say about any crash. Her doing that much alone fully depicts an individual who seems to suffer either a complete lack of spine, or some entirely self-centered delusions that her precious pay check should come first over passenger safety. How else can one otherwise interpret her clinically insane ramblings? I'm hardly any great fan of management's notions there, but it's incumbent on every pilot to know when one's not truly ready to fly. Changing anything operational won't ever come from literally hysterical rantings on company video. Note that she wasn't even afforded a microphone to speak after her initial rantings....? Well, there's a "clue" as to how much "difference" she really made.

Hysterical hyena indeed.

I have three questions for sweet Suzy the #1 F/O on the 757:

1- Did she willingly bid such trips that she claims are legal but unsafe?

2- When she walked willingly onto her aircraft did she push a button on the MCDU giving her consent that she was "FIT FOR DUTY"?

3- Was anyone holding a gun to your head threatening you to do #1 and/or #2 above ?
 
FL430 said:
Hysterical hyena indeed.

I have three questions for sweet Suzy the #1 F/O on the 757:

1- Did she willingly bid such trips that she claims are legal but unsafe?

2- When she walked willingly onto her aircraft did she push a button on the MCDU giving her consent that she was "FIT FOR DUTY"?

3- Was anyone holding a gun to your head threatening you to do #1 and/or #2 above ?
 
Exactly. Is it not in fact any pilot's actual DUTY to NOT fly if sufficiently fatigued to not being up to the task? It isn't like this is any sort of wartime "mission" in any event. NO ONE dies if you're not able to fly.
 
FL430 said:
Hysterical hyena indeed.
I have three questions for sweet Suzy the #1 F/O on the 757:
1- Did she willingly bid such trips that she claims are legal but unsafe?
2- When she walked willingly onto her aircraft did she push a button on the MCDU giving her consent that she was "FIT FOR DUTY"?
3- Was anyone holding a gun to your head threatening you to do #1 and/or #2 above ?
. DUH, going outside the union and doing her "own" negotiating, stupid at best!
 
luvthe9 said:
"It's alive and breathing on Mr. Parkers desk"............. LMAO...
Hey Dorothy, your track record is simply stunning
It was also on judge wakes desk. It was on the 9th circuits desk twice. It was on judge silvers desk twice.

Why doesn't anyone force its use?

You do know Mr Parker changed desks don't you?
 
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