2015 Pilot Discussion.

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end_of_alpa said:
Cats out of the bag.  Speculation over.
 
No Nic.
No LAA list.
Company Happy with list.  Little training movement (hence costs).
LAA and AOL objected strenuously.
LAA threatened arbitrators with lawsuit.
Ferguson leaving board to lead AOL lawsuit.
LUS found that arbitrators mistakenly used data that they needed to correct (they readily saw their mistake and agreed) thereby favorably affecting LUS pilots.
 
However:
no mention on percentage going to LOS/Status.
no mention on when list will be out.
no mention on when the West/APA will file lawsuits against the award but that they WILL be forthcoming.
 
Stand by for NEWS!
 
 
If your speculation is correct and the company is happy with the list, AA will go forward.  Lawsuits?  They will file their own and yet again get a judgement for damages from the APA, and this time also from the pockets of the westholes.  The company will prevail with a restraining order as we have seen before.
 
When the arbitrators release the list, the seniority debacle is finally over for the pilots.  Probably not for the lawyers' billing departments nor the APA and westhole bank accounts, but the SLI will stand under the rule of the law (McCaskill-Bond.)
 
end_of_alpa said:
Cats out of the bag.  Speculation over.
 
No Nic.
No LAA list.
Company Happy with list.  Little training movement (hence costs).
LAA and AOL objected strenuously.
LAA threatened arbitrators with lawsuit.
Ferguson leaving board to lead AOL lawsuit.
LUS found that arbitrators mistakenly used data that they needed to correct (they readily saw their mistake and agreed) thereby favorably affecting LUS pilots.
 
However:
no mention on percentage going to LOS/Status.
no mention on when list will be out.
no mention on when the West/APA will file lawsuits against the award but that they WILL be forthcoming.
 
Stand by for NEWS!


All lies..............I'm filling in for BoyCactus!
 
Claxon said:
Ferguson, Koontz, Vasin, Simmons gross miscalculation.

 
 
These four bozos along with Johnny Mac have decimated the careers of their fellow West pilots.  The Nic was offered at Wye with a fence that would now be over.
 
There's a reason that no graduates of Arizona Summit Law School sit on the Supreme Court.
 
end_of_alpa said:
Cats out of the bag.  Speculation over.
 
No Nic.
No LAA list.
Company Happy with list.  Little training movement (hence costs).
LAA and AOL objected strenuously.
LAA threatened arbitrators with lawsuit.
Ferguson leaving board to lead AOL lawsuit.
LUS found that arbitrators mistakenly used data that they needed to correct (they readily saw their mistake and agreed) thereby favorably affecting LUS pilots.
 
However:
no mention on percentage going to LOS/Status.
no mention on when list will be out.
no mention on when the West/APA will file lawsuits against the award but that they WILL be forthcoming.
 
Stand by for NEWS!
The USAPA Constitution was a fantastic read, but if this post proves true it might just be more memorable.
 
AA76LRdvr said:
Afraid for us, it has played poorly. Congratulations.
 
Thanks, that's a very gracious response under the circumstances.  Most of us will be gone in a few years.  I hope the west angry F/Os won't be able to screw too many of you guys out of your rightful widebody positions.
 
AA76LRdvr said:
Afraid for us, it has played poorly. Congratulations.
What has happened to all that superiority............it's all going to be good so many retirements, just a few more years here.........




IF.........there is any truth to this, beer is on all of us for our merger committee.
 
BoyCactus53........tell us all who was responsible for NOT taking the NIC at WYE RIVER when we offered it to you..........we want names.




"We now have a better picture what the East MEC had on the table: an 8 year fence, furloughs by longevity (LOS), MDA time not counting for longevity, Dave ODell having 400 pilots below him, and the Nic surviving as THE LIST. Yes, the East offered the NIC. They just wanted to protect their retirement attrition, which stalled by the change in Age-60. Looking back, that offer must look like a home run to any West pilot right now, but last February the EAST MEC and ALPA couldnt get to first base with it.

Our former MEC and our union leadership played a very high stakes game of poker by not dealing at Wye River. Freund was right, we were risking everything..and right now, it looks like we lost. They need to take responsibility for that."

U-Turn







Nothing but GREED screwed you over.
 
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