2015 Pilot Discussion.

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53Cactusboy said:
Funny. What you've just described is a mutually agreed upon process called binding arbitration. Get it now?


What's funny is Wye you did not take the NIC when offered.........




As Jeff Freund observed in his rebuttal to the East MEC lawsuit, the NIC was not in stone.

ALPAs lawyers knew the list was negotiable,


They did tell all the Wye River attendees the reality. One side listened, the other didnt.
 
"No legal argument to be made."  
 
No question your attorney is one of the best.  So good he is telling you the same thing in 2016 you already heard in early 2008.  He keeps getting paid as long as you refuse to listen.
 
53Cactusboy said:
Funny. What you've just described is a mutually agreed upon process called binding arbitration. Get it now?
Everyone could see your big picture from the beginning. Nic or nothing was always your focus and you have always been oblivious to the fact your "demands" for the Nic are nothing more than begging. You guys tried to beg us to accept the Nic by sending us lots of shiny brochures using stolen addresses. When that didn't work you tried again and again to get the courts to force us to concur with your desire to use the Nic, but none would ever do so. Even Wake and Bybee couldn't give you anything better than a contingent hope. The more you beg us to agree that we agree the more you prove nothing was agreed, until MB.

The BOA decision pursuant to MB will be the big picture. Smile. It's almost here!

Even a decade after MB it's doubtful you will believe Freund.
 
53Cactusboy said:
Wow. Desperate to be sure, Brothers.
Wye would you say such a thing............we are all very good out east.........should I post the "desperate" FISHBOWL letter for you to compare?



It's going to be OK "Dorothy".
 
53Cactusboy said:
Wow. Desperate to be sure, Brothers.
 
Seriously?  That's what you get out of this?  We're all rolling on the floor laughing at you, and you read that as desperation?
 
If you 'fess up before you're caught on a random drug test, the company will send you free-of-charge to rehab to get off of whatever it is you are obviously on.
 
luvthe9 said:
What's funny is Wye you did not take the NIC when offered.........As Jeff Freund observed in his rebuttal to the East MEC lawsuit, the NIC was not in stone.

ALPAs lawyers knew the list was negotiable,

They did tell all the Wye River attendees the reality. One side listened, the other didnt.
 
sub-note 40: Not only does the Wye River meeting confirm that the East pilots understood the force of the Nicolau Award, it confirms that they were willing to live under it By the terms of their proposal, the list would be operative immediately upon execution of a JCBA but with restrictions for seven additional years.  (The East pilots’ Wye River proposal contemplated that a JCBA would be ratified by June 2008, which was a reasonable assumption given the state of negotiations, including the Kirby proposal.  See West R. Ex. C (East Wye River Proposal) 22.)  Had the East’s Wye River Proposal been in effect, the Nicolau list would have been the list to be used in this proceeding without question and the carryover restrictions of the East pilots’ Wye River Proposal would have dropped within months of the effective date of the Award in this case…
 
(Kudos...Wmgreeter)
 
nycbusdriver said:
 
Seriously?  That's what you get out of this?  We're all rolling on the floor laughing at you, and you read that as desperation?
 
If you 'fess up before you're caught on a random drug test, the company will send you free-of-charge to rehab to get off of whatever it is you are obviously on.
 
I'm glad that you've found humor in this very serious situation.  Humor is the salve that will heal the pain that one feels, and thus it is good.  Thanks for keeping the spirits up with the laughter and joking about the very serious conditions caused by addiction. 
 
It's quite obvious, Ferggie has seen the List and knows the Nic is included. He has conveyed this excellent news to key West posters.

The word is out. Lots of celebrating in PHX.

//<SARC OFF>
 
sub-note 40: Not only does the Wye River meeting confirm that the East pilots understood the force of the Nicolau Award, it confirms that they were willing to live under it. By the terms of their proposal, the list would be operative immediately upon execution of a JCBA but with restrictions for seven additional years. (The East pilots’ Wye River proposal contemplated that a JCBA would be ratified by June 2008, which was a reasonable assumption given the state of negotiations, including the Kirby proposal. See West R. Ex. C (East Wye River Proposal) 22.) Had the East’s Wye River Proposal been in effect, the Nicolau list would have been the list to be used in this proceeding without question and the carryover restrictions of the East pilots’ Wye River Proposal would have dropped within months of the effective date of the Award in this case…
Another assumption ? It confirms nothing! The arbs are all attorneys, upon an execution of a " joint CBA" well the EASTS , wye river proposal, key word " proposal" ! Just like the NIC? You were warned ! But then again you were told USAPA will not get 300 votes.
 
Walmartgreeter said:
Any updates on the PHX sick out? Is this true, and is it ongoing?
The one who could and should answer is suffering from dyslexia presently. CB53 or is it 53CB?
Perhaps he himself is a victim of the fishbowl flu
Hopefully he is KO.
 
Claxon said:
The one who could and should answer is suffering from dyslexia presently. CB53 or is it 53CB?
Perhaps he himself is a victim of the fishbowl flu
Hopefully he is KO.
Kind of reminds me of another dyslexic poster of yore. Nostradamus/Sumadartson.

I wonder what ever happened to him? Have you seen him recently Clax?
 
N924PS said:
Kind of reminds me of another dyslexic poster of yore. Nostradamus/Sumadartson.
I wonder what ever happened to him? Have you seen him recently Clax?
He must have disappeared much like many other of the former prolific posters. What happened to the westies?
Posters like:
Nice landing captain, junebug172, fodase, movetoclt, clear direct, nic4us, prechilil, Ames, awa320, aquagreen73, callawaygolf, and many others........are they just embarrassed to be stuck in the fishbowl? Are they fixing countdown clocks? Maybe they are like Marcio and just too angry to come out. They made fools of themselves and hastily retreated their army is what happened .
Billions of damages, nick on steroids, booshaka, ho ho ho st nick is coming to town for a decade and counting. Thank you westies for all the laughs and entertainment.
 
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