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EastUS1 said:
I've no idea how this will end as yet, nor can anyone outside of the arbitrators' panel have any real clue as yet, but I hope the ending will prove at least workable for all concerned. The true tragedy in all this nonsense lay simply in not having nearly enough actually rational people involved from the start of it all....I mean seriously folks; the wholly imaginary "Army" of Leonidas?/"knights" who've "heroically" only ever "fought" inside Fantasyland?/"spartan solders"/even "dire wolves" and a group "philosophy" based on "heroic" T-shirts and pathetically ridiculous ties?...Seriously? To see something of this sort play out for a full decade's been plain past parody, and hardly served to demonstrate "the better nature of our angels" among any/all of us.
Bean; you were always one of the very few from the west actually worth even trying to "talk to/with" on these boards, and I wish everyone successful, safe and decent careers. I believe it would've been a true pleasure to fly with you anytime during this past decade, but life et al forever "is what it is"/etc. Per "and no I don't expect to be a captain."?...I hope you become one in fairly short order (not ahead of my east brethren that have more years already invested, of course) as a sufficiency of us aged dinosaurs wondering off to the "brutal" tar pit of retirement ensures a lot of empty seats to fill in the immediately upcoming years in any case.
My best to you and your family Bean. Take Care/Fly Safe/"Live long and prosper"/etc.
nic4us said:
Wrong....
Everyone knows where this is going....it is going to be (has been done) in a "fair and equitable" manner.
What no one knows is whose idea of fair will be given the most weight.
However, it is highly unlikely the east's idea of fair (one which ignores the 9th circuit's ruling saying the fruits of an illegal union failure is one to which the east pilots should no longer be allowed to reap benefits) will be given much consideration as either "fair or equitable".
In any event, you are more than correct in your observation that Luv9 is a clueless on the subject.
This is the problem with this merger, as far as AWA pilots go. They really brought nothing to the operation, and they want our wide bodies. When they close PHX, they will be unleashed into the LAA system, stealing our jobs.nycbusdriver said:Eh.....you've always been the supreme moron of the forum. Nothing seems to change here.
The West Merger Committee prominently displays a B-747 in America West Livery, front and center on the home page...AA76LRdvr said:This is the problem with this merger, as far as AWA pilots go. They really brought nothing to the operation, and they want our wide bodies. When they close PHX, they will be unleashed into the LAA system, stealing our jobs.
Nic4us is the embodiment of it. He/she wants it all. Bean counter is not that way.
Beancounter said:
I think we've got some good people on both sides of the Mississippi
Your real problem children have left the board due to the Global Settlement. Ferguson, Koontz, Vasin, Simmons, Poof, gone.EastUS1 said:I've never thought otherwise Bean. I've had the pleasure of talking with some of the PHX folks who are actual pilots and adults. As many times previously posted; my vitriolic insults were only ever directed towards the incredibly infantile "spartans"/"dire wolves"/"battle"-tested-"knights"/self-styled "Patriots" (solely by way of sporting "Liberty" ties) /"cap'n aux"/etc sorts of almost unimaginably ridiculous little children. When first confronted with the whole Fantasyland "Army" of "spartans" thing and initial videos from PHX, well...It's fair to note that my immediate notion was to call maintenance for a hydraulic jack to help extract my lower jaw out of the impact crater it'd just made in the ground.
Claxon said:Note: Phoenix Summit is an UNRANKED law school.
Mitchell Vasin took his UNRANKED legal mind and sucked millions into Marty Harpers pocket.
Congratulations Mitchell!
Your thoughts on the Nicolau Award 9 years past???
Claxon said:Cite any ruling where USAPA was an illegal entity.
You cannot. You merely spew regurgitated Leonidas propaganda.
There will be no Nic Award. Therefore, NoNic4Us is a more apt name.
Nice try, junior. "Bamboozled" by Ferguson, Koontz and your AOL scab group is more like it.nic4us said:Cite where I called uscaba an "illegal entity"???
I said the scab union committed an "illegal union failure" as in a violation of their duty of fair representation. It is a historical fact that the scab union has been found guilty of a failure of their duty, and the 9th circuit expressed that the east pilots should no longer be the beneficiaries of that "illegal union failure".
You spew the same regurgitated nonsense the scab union proposed. Ignorant ideas like"hey we can get out of a binding arbitration by changing our representation and offering the company our work on scab wages"!
You propose there is "no Nic award"...yet 2 of the 3 committees in this SLI used it as the only legal starting point for LUS pilots. I think you were bamboozled by scabford and his now rich attorney who milked the east for 10s of millions $ only to be fired and sued by the same scab union he led down the guilty DFR trail.