2015 Pilot Discussion.

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Freighterguynow said:
Lonely guy in the lav with the hand cream prominently displayed ....
 
Well, "I love MEEE!...I really,really DO!" umm..."pornography" would hardly serve to further surprise there...Seriously: WHAT kind of seriously strange little creep takes a "selfie" for global publication in an aircraft lav?..And where the heck is the company on all this? "Hey traveling public!...This is one of our "capn's"...Feel a whole lot safer now?"
 
P.S. At least he thinks he's a "knight" and even a "dire wolf"who's apparently and "heroically"..umm.."fought" in "many surprise victories", at least of SOME supposed/Fantasyland sort, if that makes you less uncomfortable...Just the "Dire Wolf" T-shirt alone should mark a true "man" with nerves of steel anyway, I suppose. ;)
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YT8H9smpK3U
 
Freighterguynow said:
Lonely guy in the lav with the hand cream prominently displayed ....
What is the deal with those ties? This is a very strange pilot. The exposure level is alarming and completely pegs the narcissm needle. No wonder the West pilots think they deserve our heavies. Types like this seem to be running their merger aspirations.
 
luvthe9 said:
Sure junior, I have had more westies so pissed off at AOL and Ferguson and Koontz, their careers ruined by their constant lies and promises along with the former PHX rep CB53 the biggest liar of all, they could have held wide body slots and all the upgrades from growth, your greed has cost your guys so much money ..........go on wear the stupid Liberty ties that say I was duped by my own pilot group............Wye River!




FOOLS wear Liberty ties
 
 
You have had more Westies pissed off than what,,,exactly?
 
More than say east pilots that are currently suing the east merger committee?  Naw, can't be that many!!
 
More than say the 500 east pilots who voted against the scab union, and their BS lies about how they could negotiate a new seniority list?  I am certain it is far fewer than that!!
 
Perhaps more than the hundreds of retirees the scab union screwed out of $1/2 million and 170 days of vacation, so junior guys like you could work for scab wages and furk over all LCC pilots in the current SLI by irreparably harming our career earnings expectations.
 
 
You see junior, you are full of BS.  The vast majority of Westies came out of pocket to fund AOL, a four times class certified representative of the West pilots, and all 4 times we won.  so, what is to be "pissed" about?
 
nic4us said:
You have had more Westies pissed off than what,,,exactly?
 
More than say east pilots that are currently suing the east merger committee?  Naw, can't be that many!!
 
More than say the 500 east pilots who voted against the scab union, and their BS lies about how they could negotiate a new seniority list?  I am certain it is far fewer than that!!
 
Perhaps more than the hundreds of retirees the scab union screwed out of $1/2 million and 170 days of vacation, so junior guys like you could work for scab wages and furk over all LCC pilots in the current SLI by irreparably harming our career earnings expectations.
 
 
You see junior, you are full of BS.  The vast majority of Westies came out of pocket to fund AOL, a four times class certified representative of the West pilots, and all 4 times we won.  so, what is to be "pissed" about?

Sometimes you can win battles and still lose the war; you might learn this one day.
 
nic4us said:
You have had more Westies pissed off than what,,,exactly?
 
More than say east pilots that are currently suing the east merger committee?  Naw, can't be that many!!
 
More than say the 500 east pilots who voted against the scab union, and their BS lies about how they could negotiate a new seniority list?  I am certain it is far fewer than that!!
 
Perhaps more than the hundreds of retirees the scab union screwed out of $1/2 million and 170 days of vacation, so junior guys like you could work for scab wages and furk over all LCC pilots in the current SLI by irreparably harming our career earnings expectations.
 
 
You see junior, you are full of BS.  The vast majority of Westies came out of pocket to fund AOL, a four times class certified representative of the West pilots, and all 4 times we won.  so, what is to be "pissed" about?
You keep on swimming in that self created fishbowl of yours, junior, you had your chance at at Wye River and you scabs blew it.........so you go right on wearing those ties that say I'm a fool!




You go on and keep pretending you made out better if it helps get through these tough times junior!
 
luvthe9 said:
"The two groups never agreed on a list, thanks to a controversial 2007 ruling by arbitrator George Nicolau, who was selected to oversee binding arbitration. However, Nicolau’s ruling not only failed to result in a seniority agreement but also heightened tension between the groups and led to a continuing series of lawsuits."

Never agreed on a list... Exactly. That is why the West lawsuits lasted so many years.. The only thing delaying a resolution to the dispute was an agreement. Both sides were free to disagree until they felt like agreeing (thus the west was free to sue in the interim).. Lawsuits were not the cause of delay.. the absence of an agreement was the cause of delay.

This time it will not be so. We all have already contractually agreed. This lawsuit will be like the TWA lawsuit.. The damage will be done and after many years the plaintiffs will win a piddling victory (no pun intended).
 
nic4us said:
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  The vast majority of Westies came out of pocket to fund AOL, .....
 
Well then; I've some suggested investments that "The vast majority of Westies" might also be interested in...starting with the Brooklyn Bridge and some of the world's very finest "Snake Oil"...both of which once-in-a-lifetime/can't-miss investment opportunities of course come with complimentary, colorful brochures from the "Army of Leonidas" and "Integrity Matters" T-shirts. "Dire Wolf" T-shirts, "patriotic" umm..."Liberty" ties, honorary "Knighthoods" and certificates of "Spartan Soldier" status, (all equally "respected" within PHX/Fantasyland alone) are offered at only a small additional charge for shipping and handling.  ;)
 
Seriously "spartan" kiddies; Fully NINE years after the nic obscenity now...and "you'se" are still stuck in your sadly self-termed little "Fishbowl" in PHX, and it's somehow even possible to fantasize that you're winning, well ANYTHING? Suggested reference for study follows below:
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pipTwjwrQYQ
 
luvthe9 said:
.........so you go right on wearing those ties that say I'm a fool!
 
Oh hardly merely fools, but more incredibly juvenile sufferers of perfectly demonstrated Arrested Development. "Hey Dude!, not only am I 'worth' usurping even 17 actually worked years of EARNED seniority from others, but I think I'm so truly 'special' as to be worth usurping even the world's most well known monument to Liberty and Freedom for my 'noble' greed there!...Just ask me!"
 
Perhaps I just missed seeing it whenever visiting Lady Liberty, but nowhere was evidenced any inscription of "Waaah!...Gimme my nic!" ;)
 
nic4us said:
 
 
You have had more Westies pissed off than what,,,exactly?
 
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 The vast majority of Westies came out of pocket to fund AOL, a four times class certified representative of the West pilots, and all 4 times we won.  so, what is to be "pissed" about?
 
Well, that seems fair, but since "all 4 times we won." (See Charlie Sheen again on "Winning")  "so, what is to be "pissed" about?"...I must reasonably agree, so the only question remaining is why are you still so "pissed" and wrapped around the axle, especially given your many "wins"? Umm...Perhaps it's finally (at least at some level) dawned on you that calling people "junior" on some nebulous website doesn't actually make them so? A bit of a jab admittedly, but the question's also offered by way of clinical interest....So? Why all the forever-apparent anger anymore, especially since "all 4 times we won"? Throughout the past 9 years; you've generally evidenced perfect faith in some "righteous" outcome. What's changed of late and why such obvious bitterness displayed these days?
 
When rumors of an imminent publishing of the SLI hit the web, expect Nic4US to go full euphoric with typical premajudiction declarations of total victory.. Before we have any details.

If you are counting, Nic4 will tell us it's the 5th victory. (How many "west victories" does it take to equal "fair and equitable"?)
 
Phoenix said:
When rumors of an imminent publishing of the SLI hit the web, expect Nic4US to go full euphoric with typical premajudiction declarations of total victory.. Before we have any details.
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That's s no brainer!
 
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Doug Parker has evaporated hundreds of millions of dollars via massive stock purchases, neglecting debt pay down.
Very similar to the Stephen Wolf play book that resulted in bankruptcy when 9-11 hit.
 
USAir's ex-CEO got millions despite record of failures
August 14, 2002|By JAY HANCOCK
IN 1996, WHEN what was then called USAir Group hired Stephen M. Wolf as top boss, airline director Mathias J. DeVito compared Wolf to hockey great Wayne Gretzky. Wolf's pay, at least, was Gretzkyesque.

The executive immediately got stock options for 1.3 million shares, which is to say he could make $1.3 million for every $1 increase in the airline's stock. Over the next six years, Wolf got more than $45 million in options, stock grants, benefits and cash.

In return, Wolf failed to rein in union pay, failed to make the company's Metrojet unit a serious contender, failed to merge the airline with United Airlines and failed to keep the company, now US Airways, out of bankruptcy court.




US Airways lost $363 million during Wolf's six-year term in the cockpit, and its stock has gone from $12 at his arrival to $80 to almost zero now.

The airline's executive-pay policies are set by its board's Human Resources Committee, of which DeVito, former boss of Rouse Co., is chairman. The committee's philosophy, as stated in regulatory filings, is to "more closely align executive compensation with company performance."

It is extremely difficult to see how Wolf's pay has been aligned with US Airways' performance.

US Airways shareholders are expected to be wiped out in bankruptcy proceedings initiated Sunday. Wolf, on the other hand, will retire to his wine cellar, fleet of Jaguars and millions made over a career of taking the stick at various airlines, engineering mergers and then pulling the ripcord.

So pliant are Wolf's bosses that last fall, after a failed merger attempt with United Airlines parent UAL Corp. that left US Airways unable to survive on its own or cope with the aftermath of Sept. 11, the Human Resources Committee gave him a big raise.

Farce and bathos

In addition to a boost in Wolf's base salary from $600,000 to $875,000, the committee awarded Wolf $1.4 million in stock grants and options for 390,000 shares, worth $1.3 million at the time, with an exercise price of $5.42. A respect for farce and bathos obligates me to quote the committee's reasons at length.

Why did Wolf and other executives get raises in base pay?

"The committee recognized the need to retain executive talent in light of the termination of the merger agreement with UAL" and "the business challenges facing the airline industry and the company following the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks," says the company's proxy statement.

How come Wolf and other executives got millions in new stock grants and stock options?

"The committee recognized that the financial impact of the termination of the merger agreement with UAL Corp. and the Sept. 11th terrorist attacks had significantly decreased the value of restricted stock and stock options granted to executive officers in prior years. ... The committee determined that new stock grants were necessary in order to incent executives to remain with the company."

In other words, Wolf and the other top US Airways managers were roundly rewarded for failure. The "business challenges" facing the company were largely of their making. They couldn't even get a Republican-run Justice Department to OK the United Airlines merger, and their obsession with the UAL deal left no Plan B.

They failed to hit performance goals, so the board punished them by boosting their pay and lowering targets required for bonuses.

Yes, of course, the Sept. 11 attacks have much to do with US Airways' problems, including a lengthy shutdown of Ronald Reagan National Airport, one of its busiest destinations. But some carriers, notably Southwest Airlines and Continental Airlines, are doing fine.

It should also be noted that Wolf turned down a base salary for the last four months of last year and declined the $275,000 annual raise the board gave him this year before he turned over the chief executive's seat to David N. Siegel. Wolf, whose unsold stock and unexercised options are nearly worthless, remains chairman.
 
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