2015 Pilot Discussion.

[nevergiveup]

 
Nicolau..................You're not getting DOH, give me something I can work with
 
East MC.............. We're comfortable with our position

 
Bravo ALPA.

 

[nycbusdriver]

 
Nicolau..................You're not getting DOH, give me something I can work with
 
East MC.............. We're comfortable with our position

 
 
So, then, if the US MC had come off of DOH at Nicolau's request, do you think Nicolau would have given the US pilots a better result?
 
How do you think it might have been different, and to what degree?

 

[nevergiveup]

I think he got pissed at US ALPA and tried to spank them. Highly unethical for him to do such a thing. No wonder he was dumped. 

 

[traderjake]

 
 
So, then, if the US MC had come off of DOH at Nicolau's request, do you think Nicolau would have given the US pilots a better result?
 
How do you think it might have been different, and to what degree?

 
 
If we had told Nicolau what we really wanted instead of asking for the moon our chances of him moving in that direction would have greatly improved (especially considering he asked us to do just that).
 
To what degree would have been a function of the strenght of our argument.
 
Instead of doing that we threw away the opportunity to influence his decision.

 

[nycbusdriver]

 
 
If we had told Nicolau what we really wanted instead of asking for the moon our chances of him moving in that direction would have greatly improved (especially considering he asked us to do just that).
 
To what degree would have been a function of the strenght of our argument.
 
Instead of doing that we threw away the opportunity to influence his decision.

 
Well then, that is a clear indication that you think the result was vindictive.  Welcome to the club.
 
And clearly indicates that Nicolau was NOT unbiased, nor professional in his duties.

 

[traderjake]

 
Well then, that is a clear indication that you think the result was vindictive.  Welcome to the club.
 
And clearly indicates that Nicolau was NOT unbiased, nor professional in his duties.

 
There was nothing vindictive.
 
We told Nicolau to do it himself and he did.
 
Now our side complains about not getting things we would not even bother to ask for.

 

[EastUS1]

The conversational level within "sparta" must be truly scintillating.....To their current credit though; there have been very few postings containing "Dude" lately. The social exchange rate value of one "bazinga" might well be two or three "Dude"s though...One would have to speak their language to know for sure.

Dude, I simply admitted that I couldn't get into med school.  ....

 
Ames: "I'm sorry, dude."..."And, dude,"...? Sheesh! "Dude"?...Most impressive, but how are we supposed to take you at all seriously when you've omitted so much as even a single "bazinga"? Hmm...multiple "Dude"s without a "bazinga"...perhaps I erred in my rate of exchange estimates.

 

[Claxon]

"nic award"
 
Make no mistake about it.  alpa thought that US Airways would eventually merge with united airlines.  The united pilot "neutrals" were setting up Legacy US Airways pilots to take the hit on the eventual 1500 pilot furloughs that united airlines announced after USAPA was voted in.  
 
Nice try alpa.   

 

[dariencc]

 
Nicolau..................You're not getting DOH, give me something I can work with
 
East MC.............. We're comfortable with our position

 
Pilot hiring office:  "Sorry, Captain.  We have many better qualified applicants than your son."
 
Captain:  "I've got the right connections.  I'm very comfortable with my son's application."

 

[dariencc]

Drunk.  Weird.  Infantile.     More fun with Cap'n Aux!
 
 
https://vimeo.com/154074439

 

[Claxon]

Drunk.  Weird.  Infantile.     More fun with Cap'n Aux!
 
 
https://vimeo.com/154074439

The america west pilots are not qualified by the FAA to fly to the Lesser Antilles. 
 
Captain "aux" did not include that in his video. 
 
Typical america west pilot wanna be..

 

[Claxon]

 
Pilot hiring office:  "Sorry, Captain.  We have many better qualified applicants than your son."
 
Captain:  "I've got the right connections.  I'm very comfortable with my son's application."

Good post, typical daddy's boy that thinks he knows it all.
 
The west pilots took advantage of many daddy's boy weak piedmont pilots.

 

[Claxon]

 
"ALPA's Communications Department provides information and support for news media inquiries. An ALPA communications representative can be reached in the Herndon, Va. office at (703) 481-4440.

News Release​

Release #02.007
January 16, 2002
America West Pilots Call for Return to Mediated Negotiations
PHOENIX — The pilots of America West Airlines, represented by the Air Line Pilots Association, International (ALPA), today requested that the National Mediation Board quickly resume mediated negotiations between the union and America West management for a new contract.
"Management has shown their commitment to compensating the government through the terms of their loan guarantee," said Eric Edwards, vice chairman of the America West unit of ALPA. "Now it is time for management to show the same commitment to the employees who have repeatedly sacrificed and invested in this airline by resuming good faith negotiations with us."
As part of the agreement with the Air Transportation Stabilization Board, America West committed to keeping labor costs to those outlined in the company’s seven-year business plan. "Management has an obligation to negotiate with the unions representing America West employees no matter what commitments they make to the government," Edwards said. The pilots believe that this condition imposed by the federal government could interfere with their collective bargaining rights and are exploring all legal options if those rights are restricted.
"The federal government, which is mediating our negotiations as a neutral third party, could become a major shareholder in the airline," Edwards said. "This could present a conflict of interest that would compromise our legal bargaining rights."
The pilots, who have been negotiating with America West since February 2000, lag considerably behind their counterparts at other major carriers despite having much more demanding schedules and constraints within which to fly. They are seeking to address the following issues in their negotiations:
Including the 1,800 America West pilots, ALPA represents 66,000 members at 46 airlines in the United States and Canada.
• No pension and no retiree medical benefits;
• Scheduling enhancements that increase productivity while on duty and, at the same time, restore sensible rest requirements;
• A commitment from management to reverse the punitive attitude toward employees and comply with the collective bargaining agreement, which they have failed to do as evidenced by the more than 300 grievances filed by pilots in 2001 alone;
• Job protection measures that limit management’s intention to outsource the pilots’ flying careers to smaller carriers; and
•Hourly pay rates that are as much as 74 percent below major airline industry average.

# # #​

ALPA Contact: Scott Sherrin, (602) 306-4100"

Above;
 
The now self acclaimed west pilot labor experts, two years before merger talks with US Airways. 

 

[Silverflyer330]

Good post, typical daddy's boy that thinks he knows it all.
 
The west pilots took advantage of many daddy's boy weak piedmont pilots.

His dad must be very embarrassed by his back stabbing attitude towards his own pilot group.

 

[dariencc]

Good post, typical daddy's boy that thinks he knows it all.
 
The west pilots took advantage of many daddy's boy weak piedmont pilots.

 
You are correct about that but we had our own, too.  Boy 330 Captain Kim Snider, a pitiful ALPA shill, comes to mind. 
 
On the bright side, Hal Burke is a Captain's son who was a selfless union rep.  He was in the top 570 and had nothing to gain personally but he fought like hell for his co-pilots.  Great guy and great pilot.