2015 Pilot Discussion.

[FL430]

You lied about the tie policy, scumbag. I wore mine today. I won't be removing it anytime soon. Not until we finish the job.
How long did it take you to fabricate a story against West pilots? I hope our legal team nails your 13 to the wall. Money well spent.

There you go with your reading comprehension problems, read it again, I said soon scab.

You guys are really ignorant, you do know they have insurance just for that don't you. You should, your dues monies helped pay for the policy. You won't bankrupt them, only yourselves.
Ignorance is bliss for you I guess.

 

[EastCheats]

Our little AFO is getting upset. YOU screwed up, TAKE RESPONSIBILITY!!
PS your no match for the APA! You'll find out soon enough.

Are you trying to suggest that USAPA LLC is a better match?

 

[EastCheats]

There you go with your reading comprehension problems, read it again, I said soon scab.
You guys are really ignorant, you do know they have insurance just for that don't you. You should, your dues monies helped pay for the policy. You won't bankrupt them, only yourselves.
Ignorance is bliss for you I guess.

How soon?

 

[EastCheats]

Your little AFO club needs to stop this crap, your finished, it's been long over, stop destroying the careers of you fellow west pilots.
Your lucky your own group does not go after you for damages.

What did I do?

 

[CactusPilot1]

There you go with your reading comprehension problems, read it again, I said soon scab.
You guys are really ignorant, you do know they have insurance just for that don't you. You should, your dues monies helped pay for the policy. You won't bankrupt them, only yourselves.
Ignorance is bliss for you I guess.

Go ahead, post that policy. Let's see it.

Considering your misinformation on the uniform policy, I'd say your insurance policy is about as good as your word. Not worth the paper it's written on..Usapian

 

[nevergiveup]

So I guess Marty wants the west's dues money as well. Smart move. (and they are paying him to take it!)

 

[EastCheats]

Go ahead, post that policy. Let's see it.
Considering your misinformation on the uniform policy, I'd say your insurance policy is about as good as your word. Not worth the paper it's written on..Usapian

Bradford, the insurance salesman from USAPA failed to deliver DOH and the no Nic coverage sucks.

 

[EastUS1]

You lied about the tie policy, scumbag. I wore mine today. I won't be removing it anytime soon. Not until we finish the job.

 
Whatever makes ya' happy kid. Rest assured the whole world trembles in proper "AWA" of both the huge "lot of courage" and fierce resolve thus demonstrated...
 
P.S. Have you at least considered fashionably upgrading to a top management level purple tutu for more truly impressive effect? Since people actually exist that'll pay $675 apiece for those magnificent ties, well; just imagine what "you'se" could charge for the following ensemble...And that's without even considering the possible issue of some "heroic" matching necklace and earrings "bling", proudly "Designed by the Army of Leonidas" as was the tie...Just tryin' ta' help out here:
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eVgjcyH4Ghk

 

[CactusPilot1]

Whatever makes ya' happy kid. Rest assured the whole world trembles in proper "AWA" of both the huge "lot of courage" and fierce resolve thus demonstrated...
 
P.S. Have you at least considered fashionably upgrading to a top management level purple tutu for more truly impressive effect? Since people actually exist that'll pay $675 apiece for those magnificent ties, well; just imagine what "you'se" could charge for the following ensemble...And that's without even considering the possible issue of necklace and ear ring "bling", proudly "Designed by the Army of Leonidas" as was the tie...Just tryin' ta' help out here:
 

I was the first person in my family of college educated, one MBA two Phd's to join a union. My father hated unions and was not the proud father when I joined ALPA almost a quarter century ago. He associated unions with blue-collar hourly employees. I reminded him that I was one of those hourly employees and had respect for those on the ramp busting their butts or the agents/FA's on the receiving end of a disgruntled passenger tirade.I had some heated conversations with him and obviously we did not see eye-to-eye. I defended unionism as necessary in this industry for it's important role as we all know when that union power is used to advance the various work groups in our industry.

Thanks to USAPA, I have seen the flip side of the coin on how union power placed in the wrong hands can be abused. I don't think the intent of unionism is to disenfranchise an employee group it claimed to represent.

Thanks to USAPA, we have to accessorize to raise money to defend ourselves against Usapians like yourself. You and others who support this association of misfits have done more to weaken the foundation of unionism with it's underhanded objectives and aggressive attacks (Cactus 18) for example. I'm proud that my contributions which are approaching $10,000 for Leonidas, Cactus 18, the 3 falsely accused of ID theft and were suspended without pay which we raised $30K to replaced that income.

I wear my Liberty tie with pride because we defeated the tyranny of USAPA and the APA is now our union. I'm willing to give our new union a chance. Your side is acting like a bunch of sore losers trying to stir the pot and start problems with the West and the APA, the West and TWA where it does not exist.

 

[Claxon]

I was the first person in my family of college educated, one MBA two Phd's to join a union. My father hated unions and was not the proud father when I joined ALPA almost a quarter century ago. He associated unions with blue-collar hourly employees. I reminded him that I was one of those hourly employees and had respect for those on the ramp busting their butts or the agents/FA's on the receiving end of a disgruntled passenger tirade.I had some heated conversations with him and obviously we did not see eye-to-eye. I defended unionism as necessary in this industry for it's important role as we all know when that union power is used to advance the various work groups in our industry.
Thanks to USAPA, I have seen the flip side of the coin on how union power placed in the wrong hands can be abused. I don't think the intent of unionism is to disenfranchise an employee group it claimed to represent.
Thanks to USAPA, we have to accessorize to raise money to defend ourselves against Usapians like yourself. You and others who support this association of misfits have done more to weaken the foundation of unionism with it's underhanded objectives and aggressive attacks (Cactus 18) for example. I'm proud that my contributions which are approaching $10,000 for Leonidas, Cactus 18, the 3 falsely accused of ID theft and were suspended without pay which we raised $30K to replaced that income.
I wear my Liberty tie with pride because we defeated the tyranny of USAPA and the APA is now our union. I'm willing to give our new union a chance. Your side is acting like a bunch of sore losers trying to stir the pot and start problems with the West and the APA, the West and TWA where it does not exist.

Yes, thanks to ALPA some of your co workers never furloughed and 17 yrs in the game got stapled behind new hires. Some union.When it down like that, you had no issue with it. You are simply an opportunist wearing an incredibly expensive tie.

 

[EastCheats]

Yes, thanks to ALPA some of your co workers never furloughed and 17 yrs in the game got stapled behind new hires. Some union.When it down like that, you had no issue with it. You are simply an opportunist wearing an incredibly expensive tie.

I guess you don't have to wear a tie since your union was tossed out. No more extortion supplementing your income. How's the fundraising going at Planet Fitness?

 

[CactusPilot1]

He kept the NIC off this property and is doing just fine owning numerous planet fitness up here in NH. Stay away in your cave in PHX

I guess you don't have to wear a tie since your union was tossed out. No more extortion supplementing your income. How's the fundraising going at Planet Fitness?

When I checked his BBB rating, it was an F. Maybe if he spent more time minding his business rather than ours, his rating would improve.

 

[CactusPilot1]

Why does he work over USAPA if he's doing fine?
Former pilot union president sues over vacation time
By Ely Portillo
[email protected]
Posted: Tuesday, May. 27, 2014
The former president of the Charlotte-based union that represents US Airways pilots filed a lawsuit Tuesday against the union, claiming he was unfairly cheated out of payment for almost 100 unused vacation days he accrued.
Michael Cleary, a pilot, headed the U.S. Airline Pilots Association from 2008 to 2012. He was a fierce opponent of US Airways and led a high-profile safety campaign in 2011 that the company claimed was in fact a secret work slowdown.
The union charged that US Airways was skirting safety requirements, but a federal judge in Charlotte sided with the company and issued an injunction ordering pilots to stop the slowdown.
In his lawsuit, Cleary claimed he worked seven days a week for the union for most of his four-year term and took only seven paid days off during that time. He worked on those seven days he took off as well, Cleary said.
Mike routinely worked seven days a week. He had no choice because there was work to be done and, in the beginning, few employees to do it, wrote Clearys attorney, Josh Van Kampen. Weekends off were nonexistent, and Mike had virtually no chance to use the vacation he was accruing.
A spokesman for USAPA said the union hadnt received a copy of Clearys lawsuit Tuesday and had no comment.
When Cleary left USAPA in 2012, he said in his lawsuit that he was paid for only 21 days of vacation time, not the nearly 100 days he had accrued. According to the lawsuit, the unions treasurer had assured Cleary that he would receive payment for all of his accrued vacation time.
Although Cleary was a pilot for US Airways at the same time he served as USAPAs president, he only flew the bare minimum necessary to maintain certification. The union paid Cleary all of his wages and benefits, according to the lawsuit. Van Kampen declined to say exactly how much money Cleary is seeking from USAPA.
The union is in the early stages of integrating with the Allied Pilots Association, which represents American Airlines pilots, after that companys merger with US Airways in December. For years, USAPA has been bitterly divided over pilot seniority stemming from the 2005 merger of America West and US Airways.
Integrating the pilot work groups seamlessly is seen as an important step for the American-US Airways merger to succeed.
Comment:
Thomas Westbrook · Westbrook High School (Maine)
He is so worried about his vacation time, but gives his employees of Planet Fitness of Maine none. Selfish person .very two face. deserve's nothing
There is a Mike Cleary who owns Planet Fitness in Maine? Let's investigate:
Here's one:
Granite Coast Properties LLC
8 Thomas Dr
Westbrook, ME 04092
Contact: Michael Cleary
Title: Managing Member
Website:
www.planetfitness.comhttp://www.buzzfile.com/business/Planet-Fitness-207-773-7774
I never join a club without checking them out on the BBB.
Subject: fitness
Planet Fitness
8 thomas drive, Westbrook, ME 04092 http://planetfitness.com
BBB® F Rating (that leaves room for improvement)http://www.bbb.org/boston/business-reviews/health-clubs/planet-fitness-in-westbrook-me-138015
I guess there are a lot of Mike Cleary's. It couldn't be him. He could not be working those long hours at the union, could he?

The rating has improved to a C. At least that's a passing grade. Better than Cleary did in running a union.


http://www.bbb.org/boston/business-reviews/health-clubs/planet-fitness-in-westbrook-me-138015

 

[CactusPilot1]

I’ve written many times about the US Airline Pilots Association (USAPA), and it’s never been in a good light. This week, the group which represents the pilots at US Airways has once again topped itself by taking out a full page ad in USA Today talking about how US Airways is unsafe. Though there are other groups in the running, I think USAPA has demonstrated that it is the most ineffective, poorly run union group out there. For Cranky Jackass Awardthe misguided representation it provides its pilots, USAPA gets the Cranky Jackass award. This has been a long time coming.

You may already know the story. USAPA was created when the US Airways “East” (pre-merger US Airways) pilots didn’t like the seniority agreement that was decided upon in binding arbitration (yes, “binding” is apparently a loose term) with the US Airways “West” (pre-merger America West) pilots. So they marched off and voted in a new union, casting off the arbitration result. The West pilots didn’t like that (it’s been working its way through the courts), but they didn’t have the numbers to prevent the move. You can read more of the history here. In short, USAPA has done absolutely nothing good for its members, but it wrongly likes to blame US Airways management for its failings.

And that brings us to USAPA’s current strategy . . . try to burn down the company and apparently put all of its members out of a job.

The latest shameful tactic is the taking out of a full page ad in USA Today claiming that US Airways is unsafe. Let’s see. You work for an airline that pays your salary with revenue that comes in the door, and now you’re going to turn around and try to shut off that revenue by falsely claiming your airline is unsafe? Simply pathetic. It’s such a blatant negotiating tactic, but how will the general public react? That’s unclear, though this hasn’t received much press at all considering all the more important “real” news in the aviation world in the last week.

The ad itself used a single pilot incident that happened on June 16 to show the supposed danger of flying the airline. Apparently there was a flight scheduled to cross the Atlantic from Philly that evening and there were a couple of mechanical issues. There are some mechanical issues that aren’t considered crucial to be fixed, and that appears to be the case here, but the captain refused to fly the airplane and then, according to the union, she was escorted out of the airport by corporate security. The next crew refused to fly the airplane as well. Over the next couple hours, some maintenance work was done and the airplane went on its way with a third crew.

This is why the union says US Airways is an unsafe airline. It says the airline is intimidating its pilots and pushing them to fly even if it’s not safe. Then if they refuse, it has security remove them. Sounds bad, right? Too bad it’s a crock.

Now, regarding the mechanical incident itself, I don’t know whether the captain did the right thing by refusing to fly the airplane. I do know that the FAA found US Airways did nothing wrong. Here’s the statement:

The FAA manager assigned to the US Airways certificate reviewed the June 16, 2011 incident. The APU shutdown the aircraft experienced is a failure that pilots are well aware can happen and that they are trained to recognize. The battery apparently was depleted by attempts to restart the APU. Flying an aircraft with an inoperative APU is not an unusual event and normally poses no safety issues when proper limitations are applied. The Captain simply chose to exercise her pilot-in-command authority of not accepting an aircraft. Our information indicates that US Airways followed their approved MEL procedures, and all maintenance procedures were followed in accordance with the operator’s approved maintenance program. We found no violations of Federal Aviation Regulations.

That being said, if a captain doesn’t feel comfortable flying an airplane, then it’s his or her right to deny it. The problem arises when that privilege is abused just to delay or cancel flights without good reason. I’m not saying that happened here. I don’t know, and frankly, it’s not central to my point. I have no problem in theory with her walking away from the flight.

But why would security come escort the captain from the airport? USAPA wants you to believe it’s because she refused to fly the airplane. Not quite. According to US Airways, “the Captain was escorted out of the airport by corporate security (after being released from duty) not for her refusal to fly but for her comments made to customers regarding the safety of the aircraft.” Unfortunately, I don’t know details about what she said to the passengers, but it was apparently highly inappropriate. See more in this a.net discussion. I would have had her carted off the airplane as well.

In reality, there is nothing pointing to US Airways being unsafe but rather more evidence of the airline having good safety practices. It recently passed the IATA Operational Safety Audit, for example. But that won’t stop the union from trying to sully the airline’s reputation. (Get it? Sully? I crack myself up.)

In the end, USAPA simply wants to damage US Airways as if this will somehow convince the airline to throw a ton of money at the union and solve all its problems. Unfortunately, the union needs to solve its own problems regarding seniority before it can even be ready to talk to management, and it doesn’t seem any closer to doing so. I feel really bad for those pilots who never even wanted this union to represent them in the first place. This whole thing is simply pathetic and more than worthy of the Cranky Jackass Award.

[Thanks to Johosofat for the excellent Cranky Jackass Award]

 

[CactusPilot1]

Mike, go to page 45. Does the judge's name sound familiar?

http://aviationblog.dallasnews.com/files/import/122693-USAPA%20preliminary%20injunction%20Sept.%2028,%202011.pdf