Yesterday's US Airways-Delta Merger Presentation PowerPoint Presentation

[BoeingBoy]

DL is as valueable as AA and UA combined?-Not hardly

Perhaps if you read the slide to understand how they came up with that you'd be laughing at the US statements.....

Jim

 

[Bear96]

Delta is spending more time trying to defeat the merger, so management can get significant equity/money in a standalone company, then it is working with the Creditor's Committee and US Airways.

Annnddd . . . USAirways is spending more time trying to push the merger through kicking and screaming, so management can get significant equity/money in a combined company (or at least some sort of perceived financial reward or benefit, else they wouldn't be doing it), than it is working to make USAirways a successful, standalone company.

Your point?

 

[MMB]

... Don't you think Doug Parker and Scott Kirby might be better in the long run...

They haven't demonstrated that ability. They can play the market! THAT they have demonstrated, but they have not shown they can successfully run a company on a day by day basis.

 

[Itestwell]

They haven't demonstrated that ability. They can play the market! THAT they have demonstrated, but they have not shown they can successfully run a company on a day by day basis.

Well, they (Parker and Kirby) certainly have not run a company on a day by day basis as well as, say, Delta, right? Point taken.

 

[AlleghenyVista]

US proposal slam dunks the DL proposal. There is no debate here. It is mathematically impossible for DL to come up with a better stand alone plan. If they don't want to merge with US, their only hope is to find another partner. The stand alone DL wish is dead.

I could have not said it better! For the last few years, the DL business plan was based on US Airways going under.
Guess what YALL...US is going nowhere! There is no way that DL can survive as a stand alone with competition from US Airways in PHL/CLT/PIT on the east coast and Air Tran in ATL. NO WAY!

 

[NYCDelta]

Well, they (Parker and Kirby) certainly have not run a company on a day by day basis as well as, say, Delta, right? Point taken.

Well, let's be honest here. You don't see DL flight attendants on here complaining (and rightfully so) about everything from only have powdered creamers to not having closet space to having seats that don't recline to having awful wine to....fill in the blanks. If that exemplifies running a company "well", than I don't want any part of it.

 

[Flufdriver]

Well, let's be honest here. You don't see DL flight attendants on here complaining (and rightfully so) about everything from only have powdered creamers to not having closet space to having seats that don't recline to having awful wine to....fill in the blanks. If that exemplifies running a company "well", than I don't want any part of it.

Hmmm...I believe FL only has maybe one or two selections of wine and no blankets and their not in bankruptcy. Yep, that wine list and blankets really helped. No, maybe having a mangement "team" that didn't have a plan "B" when US Airways DIDN'T go out of business. Why you people think this BOD and corporate leaders you have and had did a wonderful job, get a grip. They sat there for the longest time bleeding a billion dollars per quarter and said...hey "we need leather seats and new f/a uniforms (that only look good if your skinny by the way)...instead of paying our creditors, that will work"!!! Oh wait, forgot, were talk'n Delta here..forgot! Don't tell me they have been letting you sip the kool-aid are they?

 

[NYCDelta]

Hmmm...I believe FL only has maybe one or two selections of wine and no blankets and their not in bankruptcy. Yep, that wine list and blankets really helped. No, maybe having a mangement "team" that didn't have a plan "B" when US Airways DIDN'T go out of business. Why you people think this BOD and corporate leaders you have and had did a wonderful job, get a grip. They sat there for the longest time bleeding a billion dollars per quarter and said...hey "we need leather seats and new f/a uniforms (that only look good if your skinny by the way)...instead of paying our creditors, that will work"!!! Oh wait, forgot, were talk'n Delta here..forgot! Don't tell me they have been letting you sip the kool-aid are they?

No, no kool-aid here. Just stating a fact. If you don't believe me-go to the US board and read for yourself. And, you're right-DL did spend millions on passenger amenities that many people could't care less for. On the other hand, you can take cost-cutting too far. My question is this:If US is able to cut so much and save so much money, then why haven't the employees seen any of it? I believe Mr. Parker calls it "cost neutral". As I've stated before, there has to be someplace in the middle where employees and passengers both feel valued and important. Oh, yeah, it's called Southwest.

 

[Flufdriver]

No, no kool-aid here. Just stating a fact. If you don't believe me-go to the US board and read for yourself. And, you're right-DL did spend millions on passenger amenities that many people could't care less for. On the other hand, you can take cost-cutting too far. My question is this:If US is able to cut so much and save so much money, then why haven't the employees seen any of it? I believe Mr. Parker calls it "cost neutral". As I've stated before, there has to be someplace in the middle where employees and passengers both feel valued and important. Oh, yeah, it's called Southwest.

Have you ever heard of a "Signed Contract"...You should know that!! Come on, you've been around long enough to realize that!

 

[NYCDelta]

Have you ever heard of a "Signed Contract"...You should know that!! Come on, you've been around long enough to realize that!

Of course. However, and again I'm just going by what US F/A's are stating, everytime their contract is brought up, the mantra from Tempe, was "cost neutral". You're welcome to disagree with me, but I would seriously think twice about a business plan that wants to cut as much as they can from the passenger, to keep costs low, yet don't want to give any of it to the employee. That's how I would think of it. But, everyone can draw their own conclusion. Lastly, I have questioned many a decision by DL management over the years. If I feel they're doing something right (for a change) that doesn't make me a "kool-aid drinker". My primary income is no longer from DL (I fly as little as possible). I'm a cardiac nurse as well. Now if you want to talk about nurse-to-patient ratios, I can give you an earful!

 

[Flufdriver]

Of course. However, and again I'm just going by what US F/A's are stating, everytime their contract is brought up, the mantra from Tempe, was "cost neutral". You're welcome to disagree with me, but I would seriously think twice about a business plan that wants to cut as much as they can from the passenger, to keep costs low, yet don't want to give any of it to the employee. That's how I would think of it. But, everyone can draw their own conclusion. Lastly, I have questioned many a decision by DL management over the years. If I feel they're doing something right (for a change) that doesn't make me a "kool-aid drinker". My primary income is no longer from DL (I fly as little as possible). I'm a cardiac nurse as well. Now if you want to talk about nurse-to-patient ratios, I can give you an earful!

NYCDelta,

Man, if this deal goes through...I bet you'll be EXTREMELY busy in the cardiac wing...95% will be Delta pilots, young and old being wheeled in.

Hey, before I go..."Is it true what I hear about nurses"? I heard alot of things about F/a'a and NONE of that was true. I'm still hope'n it's true about nurses"!! (wink)

 

[NYCDelta]

NYCDelta,

Man, if this deal goes through...I bet you'll be EXTREMELY busy in the cardiac wing...95% will be Delta pilots, young and old being wheeled in.

Hey, before I go..."Is it true what I hear about nurses"? I heard alot of things about F/a'a and NONE of that was true. I'm still hope'n it's true about nurses"!! (wink)

LOL...Actually, there are alot of similarities. Nurses and flight attendants are both unappreciated, take alot of s**t from patients/passengers, run to answer call lights, and deal with some oversized egos of doctors/pilots. (Notice I said "some", I'm not trying to diss pilots, or doctors for that matter)

 

[longing4piedmont]

Well, they (Parker and Kirby) certainly have not run a company on a day by day basis as well as, say, Delta, right? Point taken.

Congratulations..... You finally got it.

 

[BottomFeeder]

Congratulations..... You finally got it.

I bet your going to be even happier with the NEW DELTA.

 

[luv2fly]

NYCDelta,

Man, if this deal goes through...I bet you'll be EXTREMELY busy in the cardiac wing...95% will be Delta pilots, young and old being wheeled in.

No, I think not. It will be all the old geezers at US with their special issuance medicals.
I would have said viagra, but you clearly don't need that with your blowup doll. Don't worry Fluf, she still loves you even with all your imperfections.