Correct. Still no contract. Not sure where you are going with the trouble makers and the union leaders. The union is in turmoil? Not sure where this is coming from either. I have seen nothing of the union in turmoil so far. Actually you are correct again. I blame both the company and the union. The union blames the company, and the co. blames the union, happens all the time during nego's. The exact same thing is happening over at AA paradise with their nego's. Same thing is going on at UPS with their nego's. I will say a higher % of blame goes to the company in my eyes as they have rejected constant request by the union to meet more often and more days and even requested meetings with the co. without the mediators and the company has rejected every single one of them even though the company keeps putting in their propaganda that they will meet any time any place and even over weekends, these are all lies from the company. THEY (the co.) has rejected every proposal to meet more often, more days and without mediators to keep the flow going.
I have to disagree with you that AMFA is the worst. We were a lot worse off when the teamsters were here and that's a fact. Do you not put some blame on the co. for pulling back all their movements in scope? They showed movement in the meetings 2 nego's ago, and now they retreated all that movement to only hold onto their ever must have position. They proved there is room for movement on their side. I too want a contract 737MX, but I will not jump on all this outsourcing the company is wanting to do, it will slowly rid of all back shops, lines of maint and some other maint to vendors the we do now. I would rather keep our current scope language as is rather than change it to the companies must haves for a mere 10 dollar an hour raise which is a mere 1.00 per year for the 5 years of nego. and the 5 years for the contract. The 5 year pay freeze so far is the co. fault as it was stated long long time ago by the co. now all of a sudden they want to hurry to a contract. Well they could get one if they were to move some instead of holding back on this "must have" way of doing things. I will say one thing, if full retro is not there like the Pilots got it will be a no vote by the majority of the membership, this was the #1 item on original suggestions from the membership. Guess we won't see nothing until next year some time since the company IS NOT willing to hold to their word of nego. anytime anywhere and even without the mediators, so who is still stalling now???
