WN Mechanics seek mediation

[WNMECH]

Then tell swamt and b737driver to stop posting WN stuff all over the AA forum.

I don't care if you post in the WN forum.
Start a new thread over here.
But we finally will have plenty of things to talk about on topic in the next couple of months and there is plenty of room to talk about your stuff in their own threads.

There are forum rules for a reason.

 

[The Watcher]

Tell them to follow them.

 

[B737 driver]

Tell them to follow them.

The only thing I ever posted in your threads is if you want AMFA or not, what is with our contract, and what's going on with yours, I don't Hi jack your forums.

 

[Hackman]

The only thing I ever posted in your threads is if you want AMFA or not, what is with our contract, and what's going on with yours, I don't Hi jack your forums.

Ah Driver, your talking to a IAm ramper from US Air/America Worst/Peedmont, looks like a 700 or a clone. His airline got saved from Ch7 and they are full of themselves with the merger. Disregard his bias and hatred.

Looks like April 9-10 could be fruitful if your ignorant VP of Maintenance stays in his hole. They want that ETOPS done. Good luck.

 

[B737 driver]

Ah Driver, your talking to a IAm ramper from US Air/America Worst/Peedmont, looks like a 700 or a clone. His airline got saved from Ch7 and they are full of themselves with the merger. Disregard his bias and hatred.

Looks like April 9-10 could be fruitful if your ignorant VP of Maintenance stays in his hole. They want that ETOPS done. Good luck.

Thank you Hack, went to my local 4 meeting today , our ALR was upbeat, seems upper management wants the tech ops to get the deal done. The money should be there, just have to finalize some rules, and it depends on what SWA wants on ETOPS, never understood the Watcher guy, I hope you guys don't have to go to section 6.

 

[Hackman]

Thank you Hack, went to my local 4 meeting today , our ALR was upbeat, seems upper management wants the tech ops to get the deal done. The money should be there, just have to finalize some rules, and it depends on what SWA wants on ETOPS, never understood the Watcher guy, I hope you guys don't have to go to section 6.

SWA mismanagement wants a deal because they want to fly to HNL, and the can't achieve that without ETOPS, AMFA is in the drivers seat there. Full retro or no deal. Management got the 5 year pay freeze and now it's time to pay up for the stonewalling.

We at in the Association are not looking so good. The IAm is about worthless, (Watcher is a prime example) since they got a big raise, got saved from Ch 7 and don't seem to care about their TWu counterparts locked in a 15 year concession pit. Parker talks about a "culture change" but his words don't filter down to his underlings, morale is in the toilet. Just another liar. I see nothing happening until Sept and then more stalling with Section 6. Talk is a card drive might be coming, I know many like me have had it with the Association. We fight and the IAm stands silent, IGMer's.

 

[The Watcher]

Hate to break it to you hackboi, US and Parker bought AA.

 

[Kev3188]

SWA mismanagement wants a deal because they want to fly to HNL, and the can't achieve that without ETOPS, AMFA is in the drivers seat there. Full retro or no deal. Management got the 5 year pay freeze and now it's time to pay up for the stonewalling....

I see nothing happening until Sept and then more stalling with Section 6. Talk is a card drive might be coming, I know many like me have had it with the Association.

For a bot, these are pretty accurate statements.

 

[B737 driver]

SWA mismanagement wants a deal because they want to fly to HNL, and the can't achieve that without ETOPS, AMFA is in the drivers seat there. Full retro or no deal. Management got the 5 year pay freeze and now it's time to pay up for the stonewalling.

We at in the Association are not looking so good. The IAm is about worthless, (Watcher is a prime example) since they got a big raise, got saved from Ch 7 and don't seem to care about their TWu counterparts locked in a 15 year concession pit. Parker talks about a "culture change" but his words don't filter down to his underlings, morale is in the toilet. Just another liar. I see nothing happening until Sept and then more stalling with Section 6. Talk is a card drive might be coming, I know many like me have had it with the Association. We fight and the IAm stands silent, IGMer's.

I do believe when enough of you realize that you were sold a bad deal, at least on maintenance side of the house Hackman, you will change your representation, just like when we kicked the Teamsters out, and they beg us not to do it. Sometimes when enough people want something done, it happens. Just like people thought Trump would never be elected. You are welcome here anytime.

 

[WeAAsles]

I do believe when enough of you realize that you were sold a bad deal, at least on maintenance side of the house Hackman, you will change your representation, just like when we kicked the Teamsters out, and they beg us not to do it. Sometimes when enough people want something done, it happens. Just like people thought Trump would never be elected. You are welcome here anytime.

They haven’t for the around 70 years that IAM has been at US and TWU has been at AA. Both organized those groups around 70 years ago. Your “current” Union was born around 53 years ago.

There were numerous times it could have changed at AA TWU. After Deregulation, 1983, 1995, 2003, AA Bankruptcy and finally after the Association vote betrayal.

In October 2016 when the raises came for all Association Members any notions towards the (lmfao) card drive came to a grand and final ending.

(IBT did have a shot at LUS but lost)

 

[The Watcher]

 

[swamt]

That was my original point Swampy before we drove into the ditch. As long as their membership really wants that, but it will take a long time, because American management will not want the me too clause. Back to SWA news local 4 meeting went well Cramer is positive on getting our stuff done, seems upper management wants the tech ops people to finish it up, so we will see.

Getting our stuff done when? You left that wide open. So does this mean no more McCrady at the table?? I am sure Cramer is positive, but the real question is "when" not "if".

 

[swamt]

Then tell swamt and b737driver to stop posting WN stuff all over the AA forum.

Watcher you know how I post. I simply update the mechanics and anyone else who asks for them and yes this does include the fleet thread as you have about 3 fleet guys that have asked for updates. I will not stop sharing contract info period. I never have nor will I ever try to take over a forum like you guys are trying to do now, I am not that way. Some on your side are just pissed at how accurate I have been with what is and has come out of your nego's. It does suck to be left in the dark by your asso. about very important info about contract nego's but it does seem they are trying to start to share more as of late. Good luck watcher, hope we all get contracts soon...

 

[B737 driver]

They haven’t for the around 70 years that IAM has been at US and TWU has been at AA. Both organized those groups around 70 years ago. Your “current” Union was born around 53 years ago.

There were numerous times it could have changed at AA TWU. After Deregulation, 1983, 1995, 2003, AA Bankruptcy and finally after the Association vote betrayal.

In October 2016 when the raises came for all Association Members any notions towards the (lmfao) card drive came to a grand and final ending.

(IBT did have a shot at LUS but lost)

Only on the maintenance side, didn't say what Union Weazz, but if they get it done maybe not.

 

[B737 driver]

Getting our stuff done when? You left that wide open. So does this mean no more McCrady at the table?? I am sure Cramer is positive, but the real question is "when" not "if".

Just that we are very close, scope is done, need to finish economics package, and the final agreement on ETOPS, sorry wasn't trying to cause confusion.