Who will be Terminator 3?

[FWAAA]

Well, Arpey has now declared 757s to be the anti-B6 fleet - problem is, without TV or the legendary friendly employees or the blue snacks or the hip, trendy reputation.

 

[Oliver Stone''s Apprentice]

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On 5/20/2003 5:31:10 PM nimbus wrote:

I know lots of JFK employees and can;t think of anyone working for both. Do you know of any?? Unless someone has have been forloughed or are a part time workers.... what incentive financially would they have.


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Do I know of anyone double dipping at AA and B6? Yes. And I''m not about to name names.

What incentive would they have? They think there''s job security in getting a job with a growing airline.

I personally see that as a conflict of interest, but there isn''t anything which prevents non-management employees from working for a direct competitor.

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On 5/20/2003 5:31:10 PM nimbus wrote:

AA still charges its own employees after we ALL took paycuts. UAL, DAL, B6, (and I think LUV) all offer complimentary travel to employees. (At UAL, its only for active employees not family.)

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No, AA only charges its junior employees. You obviously don''t have five years with the company yet, or you''d know that employees with five years or more seniority don''t pay service charges for domestic coach. So, less than 20% of AA''s employees pay service charges, and since we''re furloughing, that number will continue to shrink...

 

[nimbus]

>>>No, AA only charges its junior employees.

 

[IORFA]

I agree, I think every f/a who commutes or non-revs on B6 should always wear their uniform. It would be great advertising for B6 at AA''s expense. I mean we owe it to them for treating us properly. And don''t be shy about telling their passengers why you are flying on them. Don''t forget about the rumored letter Carty sent to Neelman about not letting AA employees travel for free on their jumpseats, only to get the response "Don''t tell me how to run my airline!" True or not it is correct. AA has always wanted to exert control over their employees anyway they could. Treating them like children and second class citizens is their favorite.

 

[Oliver Stone''s Apprentice]

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On 5/21/2003 11:41:32 AM nimbus wrote:

Out of curiosity...are you in favor of charging junior employees?? Especially after today; Arprey''s Key Principle #3.. PULL TOGETHER WIN TOGETHER

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Actually, I''m in favor of charging all employees with less than 25 years, including upper management. There''s a cost to nonrev travel, and everyone ends up paying for it one way or another. Charging everyone means that those who take advantage of it are paying for it, and not those of us who don''t travel at all.

"Pull together win together" doesn''t mean that if you order prime rib and I order a side salad, that we simply divide the check in half...

AA carried over 4.2M nonrevs during 2002. Assuming that there was only a $5 cost for each segment, that''s still $21M for the year. That might seem a drop in the bucket when we''re losing money by the billions, it comes out to about $230 per employee right now, and I''d rather have my pay cut be a little smaller than to subsidize someone else''s commuting to work or weekend getaway...

 

[LaBradford22]

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On 5/21/2003 12:18:59 PM IORFA wrote:

I agree, I think every f/a who commutes or non-revs on B6 should always wear their uniform. It would be great advertising for B6 at AA''s expense. I mean we owe it to them for treating us properly. And don''t be shy about telling their passengers why you are flying on them. Don''t forget about the rumored letter Carty sent to Neelman about not letting AA employees travel for free on their jumpseats, only to get the response "Don''t tell me how to run my airline!" True or not it is correct. AA has always wanted to exert control over their employees anyway they could. Treating them like children and second class citizens is their favorite.

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I read this message as I ponder - is it a bad sign for a company when its employees would rather see a competitor succeed than to see their own employer succeed?

 

[IORFA]

I never said that I didn''t want to see my own company succeed, I just think they deserve to get some gratitude from the people they are helping. It is a SHAME that AA chooses to treat their own employees like this. Even a competitor treats us better. What does that say about our company?

 

[AC AA LA FA]

JB could not buy any better PR-in times like these everybody is looking twards doing the right thing-Happy employees=happy customers-JB come out smelling like a rose by treating their own-and others-with respect and humanity=the traveling public will spend their dollar there with a smile and look to the corporate greed of the other carriers who obviously wont seem to do the right thing for their employees-what else is being done to them?
a bit of sensitivity in this crazy world..form and airline none the less..