White House Panic Mode?

[Freedom4all]

I don't have a problem with people speaking out; far from it. The problem here is that those speaking are mercenaries preventing the "real" voice of the people from having their say.

Here's a hypothetical:

If I show up at my local meeting wanting to speak to my elected rep., and you (and a busload of your friends) buzz in from say, King County Washington, and monopolize the meeting, how is my voice being heard? How is that not thwarting democracy?

I find it ironic that someone with "Freedom" in their board name is such a proponent of just the opposite.

BTW, you do realize that using condescending personal attacks in a post only serve to undermine your credibility, right?

Its your own conspiracy theory that leads you to believe your overtly biased view of the subject. You have nothing. Im guessing you would feel somewhat different if it were a group like ACORN, SEIU the Black Panthers were doing the same. Oh yeah, they do it all the time and no one says word one. Imagine that.

 

[Kev3188]

Its your own conspiracy theory that leads you to believe your overtly biased view of the subject. You have nothing.

Really? If so, that should make it really easy for you to aerate my claims, and yet you haven't been able to. Why is that?

Im guessing you would feel somewhat different if it were a group like ACORN, SEIU the Black Panthers were doing the same. Oh yeah, they do it all the time and no one says word one. Imagine that.

I'm against anyone-or any organization- using it's agenda to silence the voice of the masses.

 

[southwind]

You mean the "common folk" that just happened to be bussed into whatever district is having a meeting? "Common folk" that are following a carefully thought out strategy to disrupt these meetings?

Sad that Armey and his, well, army are using the same sort of strategies that the Brownshirts used so successfully in Beer halls not too many years ago...

Surely your not referring to ACORN, when talking about people being bused in are you ?

 

[southwind]

First of all, I'm not your "mate."

You claim that these people in Town Hall meetings are merely common people crying out against what they feel is a poorly thought out policy. I call B.S. This leaked memo from Armey's own camp backs me up.

Fact: there is a well choreographed plan being undertaken. Regardless of how one feels about public policy, there can be no doubt that these carpetbaggers are thwarting the *real* voices in these districts from being heard.

Sounds more to me like they're using Nobama'a and Acorn's playbook !

I'm starting to lose that tingley feeling in my legs, which can't be good !

 

[Freedom4all]

Really? If so, that should make it really easy for you to aerate my claims, and yet you haven't been able to. Why is that?

We have a word for that in Australia, its called a brown eyed mullet.

I'm against anyone-or any organization- using it's agenda to silence the voice of the masses.

Really? So were you outraged in the past against said groups that pushed the lefty liberal suppressive socialist agenda?

 

[Kev3188]

We have a word for that in Australia, its called a brown eyed mullet.

Ah. Now I'm a turd. Cute. You're still evading the issue.

Oh please! no one in their right mind would think that everyone protesting would be from the district.

You'd think that, but Freedom4all seems to believe so. Have you not read the rest of the thread?

 

[tech2101]

The tactic is: when you are losing the debate on its merits, you scream out loud so the other person with the winning facts cannot be heard.

You also do not answer any direct questions, or offer any alternative to the proposals of the winning side.

The voters will see it for what it is.

BTW, this is the same tactic that was used in the protest of the vote counting in Florida for GW Bush.

See the Docker's Rebellion.

 

[700UW]

Kev,

Your wasting your time, he is a right wing and wont say the rest as I dont want to end up in the cornfield.

He is obsessed with Obama and the left, he cant handle that the past 4 years the right wing cant win an election.

And he cant handle the facts the the Dems are trying to help people.

Hey Freedom,

How come Cheney wouldnt meet with the process server at the White House who came to serve him numerous times?

He has only started a thousand anti-Obama threads.

 

[Freedom4all]

Ah. Now I'm a turd. Cute. You're still evading the issue.

Noooooooo if you read carefully I was referring to your absurd question/reasoning. Am I going to answer it? No. Why not? Because its absurd. Clear enough for ya mate?

You'd think that, but Freedom4all seems to believe so. Have you not read the rest of the thread?

Noooooooo thats your assumption you learned from a liberal blog and rubber stamped it as fact as it defines your political view.

 

[tech2101]

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[Freedom4all]

The voters will see it for what it is.

Yes they will my lefty friend, yes they will.

 

[Freedom4all]

Kev,

Your wasting your time, he is a right wing and wont say the rest as I dont want to end up in the cornfield.

He is obsessed with Obama and the left, he cant handle that the past 4 years the right wing cant win an election.

And he cant handle the facts the the Dems are trying to help people.

Hey Freedom,

How come Cheney wouldnt meet with the process server at the White House who came to serve him numerous times?

He has only started a thousand anti-Obama threads.

The Dems are trying to help people? Show me the hard data. Show me the proof that anything they have done has helped at all.

Cheney? Dont know, dont care. That was then. This is now. Start living in the present my little corny friend.

A thousands threads? Haha...not yet, but it should be easy at this pace.

 

[Freedom4all]

Why are people raging mad? Because they arent buying what Obambi is selling thats why.

Case in point:

Confidence in U.S. Health Care System

Has Grown in Recent Months

Forty-eight percent (48%) of U.S. voters now rate the U.S. health care system as good or excellent. The latest Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey shows that just 19% rate it as poor.

These figures reflect a significant increase in support for the health care system over the past few months. In May, just 35% of adults nationwide rated the system as good or excellent. A year ago, just 29% of Likely Voters rated the system in such positive terms.

The new polling also shows that 80% of those with insurance rate their own coverage as good or excellent. That’s up from 70% in May.

and

71% Say Obama’s Policies Have Driven Up Deficit

54% Favor Middle Class Tax Cuts Over New Health Care Spending

54% Oppose More Money for ‘Cash for Clunkers’ Program

Just 23% Believe Health Care Costs Will Go Down if Reform Passes Congress

Get the picture? Shall I go on?

 

[Kev3188]

The tactic is: when you are losing the debate on its merits, you scream out loud so the other person with the winning facts cannot be heard.

You also do not answer any direct questions, or offer any alternative to the proposals of the winning side.

The voters will see it for what it is.

BTW, this is the same tactic that was used in the protest of the vote counting in Florida for GW Bush.

See the Docker's Rebellion.

Very well put. Thank you.

Kev,

Your wasting your time, he is a right wing and wont say the rest as I dont want to end up in the cornfield.

I'm pretty sure Dapoes is a "she."

Noooooooo if you read carefully I was referring to your absurd question/reasoning. Am I going to answer it? No. Why not? Because its absurd. Clear enough for ya mate?

Perfectly. I rest my case.

See: Tech2101's quoted post above.

Noooooooo thats your assumption you learned from a liberal blog and rubber stamped it as fact as it defines your political view.

No, it was a logical conclusion based on what YOU typed in the OP.

Remember this? I put it in bold to help jog your memory.

Seems like they are in sheer crap-in-yer pants mode over the whole town hall meetings that are being over run by the common folk telling them what a horrible idea it is. Especially when the videos are on you tube and viral hits at record speed.

I, as a Card Carrying Libertarian

I know where you lie on the political spectrum, Bob, which is why it's hard for me to get why you're (at least tacitly) endorsing tyranny.

 

[tech2101]

From the link you posted above.

Overall, just 35% of Americans rate the U.S. health care system as good or excellent. But 70% of those who have health insurance rate their own coverage as good or excellent.