When will SWA go to Hawaii???

[GVPSPIAM]

Why has WN staffed three of the four Hawaiian stations with Ramp and Customer Service, but why is Maintenance outsourced?

 

[B737 driver]

Why has WN staffed three of the four Hawaiian stations with Ramp and Customer Service, but why is Maintenance outsourced?

Probably the same reason at Denver we had 200 flights a day, and no maintenance. Then they finally put maintenance in there.

 

[GVPSPIAM]

Probably the same reason at Denver we had 200 flights a day, and no maintenance. Then they finally put maintenance in there.

Which is why?

 

[B737 driver]

Which is why?

It had to do with the city of Denver taxed you on your parts inventory, so they used to fly mechanics and parts everyday in there. When the city finally backed off on that, we put maintenance in there.

 

[GVPSPIAM]

https://www.forbes.com/sites/michae...vive-southwests-entry-into-the-hawaii-market/

 

[swamt]

Great article. But Hawaiian will be just fine. Sure they will feel it a little as all of them will. But Hawaiian has plenty of other assets to focus on as well. I think I read an article that Hawaiian has 90% of the inner island hopping traffic, pretty sure they will be just fine. Maybe Hawaiian and SWA could do a partnership, merger or even an all out purchase to very, very quickly jump into the full blown Hawaiian market with big gains in traffic. Dump all the planes they don't want, sell off other routes that SWA wouldn't want to deal with for now, keep all doors open for any future international routes Hawaiian has currently and maybe even use their larger aircraft as a test to what larger a/c they may be interested in.
Yes , that was all a pipe dream in my head, but, never say never.

 

[swamt]

And the Southwest Effect begins even before we get there.
Any guesses on our pricing? I see AA and ALK lowered their fares to 339 and 363 without SWA pricing yet. Could we see 299.00 or maybe even 249.00?? Even 319.00 would be a deal to Hawaii. Also wondering how long SWA will run with the introductory pricing, couple months, 6 months, a year???

Southwest's Plan to Launch Flights to Hawaii Could Start a Fare War to the Aloha State

 

[jimntx]

Saw this on my Fidelity website; so, can't post a link. This is a cut and paste of the entire news item.

Commuter Deal Adds Spice To Hawaii Flights -- Market Talk
BY Dow Jones & Company, Inc.
— 8:57 AM ET 02/12/2019

08:57 ET - The Hawaii airline market plot thickens. The purchase of Mokulele Airlines by commuter specialist Southern Airways could strengthen Mokulele's inter-island turboprop service with the prospect of more interline marketing deals with major carriers, beyond existing ties with Alaska and American. Southwest ( LUV) has also yet to detail whether it will provide inter-island flights, a market that Hawaiian Air recently flagged as soft. ([email protected]; @dougcameron)

I just posted yesterday that I had never heard of Mokulele Airlines. Also, did not know that there is an organization named Southern Airways.

 

[Kev3188]

Saw this yesterday, and thought of your earlier post.

https://crankyflier.com/2019/02/12/...lele-forming-the-largest-us-commuter-carrier/

 

[swamt]

I never heard of either one also Jim.
It may be a very smart move by Southern Airways.
Completed 2 of our 8 test flights so far. I sure hope SWA was pro-active again with the FAA inspectors and hired what they need to keep moving forward with aircraft deliveries in case another shutdown occurs.

 

[swamt]

Getting closer. Wonder if SWA could get some of the spring breakers? Might be too late for that.
Working on the last big hurdle as of now.
Who wants to sign up for non-rev to Hawaii? Lets see, middle seat for about 7-8 hours?? I don't think so. I would prefer to pay and go FC. Too many hours to go coach for me.

Southwest Airlines Is 1 Step Closer to Hawaii Flights

 

[swamt]

The question is, will the "Southwest Effect" get even greater once we do launch services to and from Hawaii? The cheapest by far that I have seen so far is these 358.00 fares. Southwest isn't even selling tickets yet, and more than likely will not until the end of this month or maybe even in March. It just all depends on when they get signed off from the FAA to start the flights.
I wanna see prices goto 349.00 or lower, maybe even 299.00 for Southwest introductory fares, huh? Now that would be a grand entrance.

Flights to Hawaii Are Plummeting by $200 or More - Book Now

 

[jimntx]

Where are you finding these prices? The cheapest I can find is a one-stop DAL-LAX-HNL on Alaska and another airline and it's over $500 round-trip. BTW, did not know that Alaska is flying a Love Field-LAX non-stop.

 

[swamt]

Where are you finding these prices? The cheapest I can find is a one-stop DAL-LAX-HNL on Alaska and another airline and it's over $500 round-trip. BTW, did not know that Alaska is flying a Love Field-LAX non-stop.

A couple articles I read said they found them as low as 358.00> I did not find them myself.
ALK is just kicking up some new flights out of DAL and that was one of them. Pretty sure the 358 fares are over until we start actual flights to Hawaii.

 

[swamt]

When is the lawsuit?

WN got verbal ETOPS approval and waiting on the paperwork.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/trav...val-for-hawaii-flights-gary-kelly/2983585002/

This is great news!! Finished with the test flights for Hawaii, fantastic!!
What is your point? And what lawsuit are you referring to??? And BTW who the hell are you??