I am curious about the "70's" archaic system SCEPTRE. I only know 2 systems since I have only worked for 2 airlines nwa (17 yrs) and FedEx and I can tell you that SCEPTRE mops the floor with the FedEx system. It was MUCH more user friendly and easier to navigate. But you being the job jumper that you have been maybe you have worked with a better system.. If so please feel free to share. I have to laugh about your interest in DL maint practices like you are excited or something.. I will tell you what I do not miss the hatchet hanging over my head(which it is for you but you are too blind to see it) which it did for my entire career. I rented a house forever because I was always had the threat of a layoff or someone bumping me for 17 yrs if you can believe that. Now you are riding high on the hog with your 2005 seniority and you have all this critique of nwa's maint practices. Well you know nwa had one of the BEST maint programs in the business at one time. Well enjoy the mix mash of employees you have talked about because you all deserve each other..
Whats it like over there?
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I am curious about the "70's" archaic system SCEPTRE. I only know 2 systems since I have only worked for 2 airlines nwa (17 yrs) and FedEx and I can tell you that SCEPTRE mops the floor with the FedEx system. It was MUCH more user friendly and easier to navigate. But you being the job jumper that you have been maybe you have worked with a better system.. If so please feel free to share. I have to laugh about your interest in DL maint practices like you are excited or something.. I will tell you what I do not miss the hatchet hanging over my head(which it is for you but you are too blind to see it) which it did for my entire career. I rented a house forever because I was always had the threat of a layoff or someone bumping me for 17 yrs if you can believe that. Now you are riding high on the hog with your 2005 seniority and you have all this critique of nwa's maint practices. Well you know nwa had one of the BEST maint programs in the business at one time. Well enjoy the mix mash of employees you have talked about because you all deserve each other..
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Question for you southwind. I have a buddy whose brother works at Delta, word is from him several AMT's were walked out for the MD80 wiring debacle (not addressing the AD but signing for it).Not really too concerned with the unions here, although I feel for the NW mechanics who went on strike and no other unions backed them up. Doesn't really re-enforce the notion of "Vote Union Now!" in my book.
As far as NW pilots stating "We're against the merger" it's all part of the postuering process until they get something they'll be happy with. Which I',m sure they will !
What recourse will they have without union representation if any?
Is the "game over" when your Delta "management friends" decide to open the gate and drop kick you out?
Like to know any details of how the termination process works at non-union Delta for AMT's.
I would surmise they are done, case closed, but correct me if I'm wrong.
They were indeed walked out. They lost a few days of pay because they did not do the job that they signed for. I believe they are all back to work. No one (that I know of)is getting fired for the whole poorly written AD fiasco.
Short of coming to work drunk or any violence at work, its damn near impossible to get fired from here.
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We have "The Tech-Op's Council" which is a generic employee representation group, somewhat of a joke here , but I can say I've seen people walked out, for things like poor attendance, more than once and through Tech Op's council Resolution were able to get their job back !
Oh and yeah CSAR must be nice to walk right into a gen inspection job.. at the "old" nwa that would NEVER happen..But hey thanks to crossing our picket line it allowed you to walk right into a job that took YEARS for anyone else to get and you went to top pay scale and didn't have to put in your 5 yrs to get to the top like most of the other scabs did...But on a brighter note I still walked into a job paying 20k more than you are making.. Atleast I can enjoy a wage that WE fought for and the great thing is I don't have pay any union dues.
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Lineguy43,
Glad to hear you landing on your feet! Does that have anthing to do with your avatar?
As for the SCABS at NW, the NW AMT's that crossed and went back are low but they do not compare to the low lifes that would answer an ad to take another mans job. They did not get any "super" seniority and I can only hope that DL recalls all who want to come back and then furlough out the SCABS.
Take care.
Glad to hear you landing on your feet! Does that have anthing to do with your avatar?
As for the SCABS at NW, the NW AMT's that crossed and went back are low but they do not compare to the low lifes that would answer an ad to take another mans job. They did not get any "super" seniority and I can only hope that DL recalls all who want to come back and then furlough out the SCABS.
Take care.
Oh yeah..LOL cat landing on it's feet..No my avatar looks exacly like my cat at home so that's why I use it..
I wish this would also be true, but I doubt that is how it will play out. If the lists are merged with DOH the scabs would all be near the bottom. The problem they are all most all in DTW and MSP. Say the cuts come in CVG and SLC. The only way the scabs would be out is if guys from those stations choose to move and displace them. I'm thinking most would just take the furlough and walk away.
You mentioned there are about 600 original AMFA mechanics on furlough. Were most of these guys also MSP and DTW? Or were there a lot of line station guys. If so which stations were large, say above 50 mechanics? What will these guys do if DL starts remanning these stations with company mechanics and gets rid of the contract operations? Will they come back? Or have they washed their hands of this industry?
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Very good questions, most I can't answer as they pertain to each individual. Here's a link to the list:
http://www.amfa33.org/PDF/2008%20Tech%20Re...1%2023%2008.pdf
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Hey UAL! My boy is doing fine...he is an official 11 Bravo now, (heavy machine gunner) He deploys to the ME in the fall. My eldest daughter just recieved an Army Commendation medal for her performance at the NTC, and is up for merritorious SGT. She leaves this summer for the sand box. Fortunately I was able to talk my youngest OUT of enlisting, at least until she graduates high school next June. (two blue stars is enough for Dad)Hey Al
Nice to see you back
How is your son doing? Finish Boot Camp OK?
Later,
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Ya know, your point would be valid if I had never wrenched on an aircraft prior to coming here, had NO NDT or boroscope experience, had never done a recieving inspection, or had never stamped off an RII inspection. On of the most costly mistakes made by the union was believing that ALL the replacements were either illegal aliens who bought their ticket, crack smoking cessna mechanics, or had NEVER wrenched on commercial aircraft. Unfortunately for you, this was not the case. But thanks for playing anyway.
On a serious note, I am glad that you were able to move on and find a better source of employment. This only re-itterates my oft repeated claim that there IS life outside the airlines. You have now discovered what most of us have known for years.
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Al,
I think the mistake the union made was thinking that anyone with as much qualification as you claim to have would also have the ability and moral compass to find work elsewhere. As you have proven by your actions, the union was mistaken in belive that that kind of man still existed.
I think you will be surprised to find that even though Delta AMT'S are non-union, they are not anti-labor.
I am proud to say that I did not work with one Line AMT that I know of in DFW that touched a NW plane while the strike was on!
I think the mistake the union made was thinking that anyone with as much qualification as you claim to have would also have the ability and moral compass to find work elsewhere. As you have proven by your actions, the union was mistaken in belive that that kind of man still existed.
I think you will be surprised to find that even though Delta AMT'S are non-union, they are not anti-labor.
I am proud to say that I did not work with one Line AMT that I know of in DFW that touched a NW plane while the strike was on!
