What Happened To This 737?

[Furloughedagain]

In case you were unable to view the link above:

N411US Delivered 10/19/88, Withdrawn 09/09/02, Broken up April 03

:angry: :down:

 

[cltvff]

Hmmm.... only 14 yrs old... wonder why?

 

[W:EXCH:INVOL]

AOG, or anyone in the know, can you add any details to this? Is this a typical age to get parted out? Cycles maybe? Thanks.

INVOL

 

[LavMan]

It is not typical but the plane was returned to the lessor, no one wanted to lease a 14 year old plane when you can get a new one, it was then put up for auction and sold for scrap.

 

[ITRADE]

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[LavMan]

ITRADE,you showed your true colors and lack of credibilty and maturity with your posts blaming me for Dave's lease abrogation and the market conditions that prevailed this plane to be broke up for scrap instead of flying for someone else.

But I would not expect any less of you.

 

[ITRADE]

Here's some more photos of LavMan's (aka Biffeman's handywork):

http://www.airliners.net/open.file/405702/M/

http://www.airliners.net/open.file/405700/M/

 

[oldiebutgoody]

They forgot a choice for the vote:
5. It was put through an "airplane friendly" reorganization.

 

[AOG-N-IT]

AOG, or anyone in the know, can you add any details to this? Is this a typical age to get parted out? Cycles maybe? Thanks.

INVOL

Sadly ,

This is becoming typical of today's economic enviroment , especially in this industry.

Aging Acft of the past usually end up where it's rotable parts became worth more than the value of the Aircraft in working order , Hince they become parted out for spares....and the remaining airframe becomes a beer can or a Hyundai.


Todays enviroment has only escalated this situation. Sure , thier is no reason what so ever for a 14 yearold Boeing to meet this fate this early in mechanical terms...but the glut of available airframes in the world has lead the industry to this.

This is also a positioning thing of sorts. The day will come when demand returns..and this puts Airbus and Boeing in a good position to sell new Acft..instead of brokering older stuff at pennies on the dollar by comparison.

This year will mark an near all time low for commercial Acft production. Airbus has around 300 firm deliveries for this year...and Boeing has slumped to around 280. These boys want to be able to make up for this loss in the future...and they can't do that with serviceable stuff laying around that can be obtained cheaply.

I'm sure Dave doesn't want too many Boeings being thrown in his face either...those would have to be worked by the IAM if they returned? , like a few have in the last year.

I see a day at U where all the Boeings will go into an accelerated retirement...and Airbus options will be exercised to the max again...this will all depend on what shakes out on the Airbus Farm-out issue?

I see the 5 to 10 year Boeing retirement plan being tossed out the window...in favor of a 3 to 5 year plan at best , IF the IAM loses this fight? I see the EMB-170/190's replacing the B737 family...and the options on A321's and A330-200's going into high gear almost over night.

Then again....this battle between and the IAM over the Airbus work , could be the last shot of the last battle for us all....or at least 50% of the remaining Mechanic and Related Employees anyway.

 

[Kyle]

Let's stay on topic, folks.

 

[AOG-N-IT]

Let's stay on topic, folks.

Good call Kyle !!

Itrade...I know you are a reasonable man , but your comments to Lavman are out of line my friend.

Sure , Lavman is a devoted "Trade Unionist"...and he and I have had our moments too. However making light of what could affect thousands of USAirways Employees lives...and possibly the safety of valued customers such as yourself and Pineybob is purely wrong.

Yes I'm in the IAM...and no I didn't want to be...I was acreeded into this mess by the Union and a Judge...but when it comes to how or whom fixes our Acft? I'm on the IAM's team 100%...and that means Lavmans team too.

I may not be the fanatic about unions that some around here are...but lable me as fanatic numero uno when it comes down to staying on the right side of an issue as heated and important as this.

Maybe the business world as hardened or softened too many heads in regards to everything boiling down to dollars and cents...and what my supposed bottom line and yields equal in stockholder returns?

Hopefully Safety in something doing 500 Kts at 35,000 feet has a value too?...and maybe saving some Americans jobs is better than paying them to do nothing until they can find something that means nothing to them by comparison?

Damn I'm dissapointed in you !!....and I thought I'd never say such a thing.

 

[PITbull]

AOG,

Your comments are extremely respectful and honorable. You are always thinking in a "global sense", and as a result, showing us much common sense and wisdom.

Your more than OK in my book.

I am living closely postioned to you... somewhere, carefully "between the gutter and the stars".

 

[Light Years]

Looks like this aircraft got furloughed and is, like many of us, living on Top Ramen noodles.

This really does show just how bad the industry is when young aircraft are being turned into Michelob cans. Boeing cannot sell new planes with a plethora of young planes available on the cheap. Furthermore, formerly "second tier" carriers (LCCs) are no longer second tier and no longer buy secondhand planes. I foresee alot of planes being broken up.

I think the EMB170-195 family would be a great replacement for the 737s, complemented by the Airbuses for longer haul routes. The only exceptions are that we HAVE long haul routes and that ALL aircraft are worked, serviced and maintained by US AIRWAYS employees at LIVABLE WAGES.

 

[Dont call me Shirley]

What a sad photo. I can remember when PI became the launch customer for the
-400 and the pride we felt that little ole PI had this honor. How sleek it looked compared to the stubby -300.
Remember the "wings" on the headrests in the orginal PI configuration?

Oh well, I guess I'm dating myself.

Check out the other sad pictures on airliners.net from Greenwood, MS. An airport that logs a lot more landings than take-offs.

 

[lownslow]

....and the remaining airframe becomes a beer can or a Hyundai.

...and the remaining airframe becomes a beer can or a Hyundai.

Somehow, I doubt Hyundai makes any parts for their vehicles out of aircraft grade aluminum. Maybe if they threw it back into the smelter and worked on it, they might get an engine block, but you'd have to look to Audi or Jaguar or the like to find a car made of aluminum.