What Barry has done to our military

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Ifly2 said:
How about we all ignore that mindless political self-aggrandizing crisis-making BS and read a little history?

What ya' say to that idea?
You can ignore the present glaring truth as you will do here, however the fact remains that your hero Obammy and his henchmen (er Hildabeast Kerrykins) he continues to decimate the military. Yes, there is a crisis thanks to the anti-America and his anti-military progressive tactics. He ignores the Pentagon, ignores the military advisers and does what he wants, all we have seen is fail, after fail, after fail. Which then ends as the continual screwing of this country. There was a fairly stable Iraq when the Dictator was elected, and look at it now. Thanks to Obammy pulling the troops out, and ISIS moving in. Nice job Nobammy and Hillldabeast.
 
 
"We cannot afford to reduce our military readiness at a time when the threats to our security here at home and throughout the world are growing at an alarming rate,” Mr. Isakson said. “We should be using our military to send a clear signal to the rest of the world that America has no intention of standing down in the fight against the threat of terrorism worldwide.”
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/jul/8/obama-admin-cut-40k-army-soldiers/?page=all
 
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That's a hell of unconfirmed tale IFlew2, I heard a few of those during the Cuban Missile Crisis back in the 60's. My dad was in the Navy then, pretty terrifying times then.
 
Really, a much different time period 40-50 years ago, and Kennedy was a different democrat, a real man instead of the arrogant fool and pansy in a suit that we have now. Can you imagine the Obammy Administration dealing with nukes?  Oh yes, we have seen that with the serious mess the world is in with Iran and John Kerrys' absolute sell out.
 
Let's stick with the topic at hand, the current destruction of the armed forces by Obammy.
 
Thanks much.
 
 
"Barack Obama is not likely to be mistaken for Teddy Roosevelt. Yes, his foreign policy has been quite soft-spoken—especially when addressing openly hostile states such as Iran. But he has whittled America’s “big stick” down to kindling.
While “resetting” with Russia and “engaging” with Iran, Obama has presided over a tremendous down-sizing of U.S. military strength. The Army’s manpower is down 10 percent since President Obama took office. Our naval capabilities are aging and inadequate to meet our national security demands. The Air Force fields the smallest and oldest force of combat aircraft in its history. The Marines are running only about two-thirds the number of battalions they have historically needed to meet day-to-day operational demands." http://dailysignal.com/2015/07/26/weapon_system_revive/
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The Okinawa missiles of October

Aaron Tovish

John Bordne, a resident of Blakeslee, Penn., had to keep a personal history to himself for more than five decades. Only recently has the US Air Force given him permission to tell the tale, which, if borne out as true, would constitute a terrifying addition to the lengthy and already frightening list of mistakes and malfunctions that have nearly plunged the world into nuclear war.
 
 
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Here’s Obama’s original statement, in an October 2008 campaign visit to Columbia, Mo:

"Now, Mizzou, I just have two words for you tonight: five days. Five days. After decades of broken politics in Washington, and eight years of failed policies from George W. Bush, and 21 months of a campaign that's taken us from the rocky coast of Maine to the sunshine of California, we are five days away from fundamentally transforming the United States of America.

"In five days, you can turn the page on policies that put greed and irresponsibility on Wall Street before the hard work and sacrifice of folks on Main Street. In five days, you can choose policies that invest in our middle class, and create new jobs, and grow this economy, so that everyone has a chance to succeed, not just the CEO, but the secretary and janitor, not just the factory owner, but the men and women on the factory floor."
 
Ifly2 said:
Here’s Obama’s original statement, in an October 2008 campaign visit to Columbia, Mo:

"Now, Mizzou, I just have two words for you tonight: five days. Five days. After decades of broken politics in Washington, and eight years of failed policies from George W. Bush, and 21 months of a campaign that's taken us from the rocky coast of Maine to the sunshine of California, we are five days away from fundamentally transforming the United States of America.

"In five days, you can turn the page on policies that put greed and irresponsibility on Wall Street before the hard work and sacrifice of folks on Main Street. In five days, you can choose policies that invest in our middle class, and create new jobs, and grow this economy, so that everyone has a chance to succeed, not just the CEO, but the secretary and janitor, not just the factory owner, but the men and women on the factory floor."
Former NATO Supreme Commander James Stavridis criticized President Obama, his former boss, for recent cuts to military spending while U.S. troops are still engaged on multiple fronts around the world.
 
“We have already cut defense … about 30 percent over the last 10 years, and we’re still at war,” Stavridis told radio show host John Catsimatidis on “The Cats Roundtable” Sunday on New York’s AM 970. “We’re actively involved on multiple continents in real combat operations. We should not be drastically reducing our troop levels.” http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/250665-ex-nato-supreme-commander-rips-obama-over-military-cuts
 
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No meltdown,

Just providing a little history about some courageous men who actually didn't obey their orders, for good reason, and were right,

As opposed to full of Straw Man BS self-promoting YouTube Boy and his utter nonsense

And a deflation of the feared fundamental change fear grenade

For the record, I have criticized O plenty,

So go stick your thoughless heads back up Rush's backside and see what other nuggets of waste you can pull out to post, as if they were some kind of "thought"
"Looming budget cuts not only are stoking anxiety among troops but also fundamentally changing how they think about the military, the services' top enlisted leaders told House lawmakers Wednesday.
"Thirty years ago, if you were a good airman and worked hard, you could serve for 20 years. I'm not sure you can say the same today," said Chief Master Sergeant of the Air Force James Cody, who added that budget uncertainty "is curtailing the ability to serve."http://www.militarytimes.com/story/military/capitol-hill/2015/02/25/enlisted-leaders-budget-concerns/23994253/
 
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The cartoon response

Deep Thoughts
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Mark Moyar


Aug. 2, 2015 5:32 p.m. ET 

"News last month of the U.S. Army’s decision to cut 40,000 active-duty soldiers, shrinking to 450,000 by 2017, drew fusillades inside the Beltway. Sen. John McCain assailed “another dangerous consequence of budget-driven strategy.” Adam Smith, ranking Democrat on the House Armed Services Committee, fumed: “Sequestration and the Budget Control Act, which are responsible for slashing the defense budget, exist because the Republican Party held our economy hostage and threatened to default on our loans.”http://www.wsj.com/articles/how-obama-shrank-the-military-1438551147
 
Hackman said:
Let's stick with the topic at hand, the current destruction of the armed forces by Obammy.
 
Hackman said:
 

By
Mark Moyar


"News last month of the U.S. Army’s decision to cut 40,000 active-duty soldiers, shrinking to 450,000 by 2017, drew fusillades inside the Beltway. Sen. John McCain assailed “another dangerous consequence of budget-driven strategy.” Adam Smith, ranking Democrat on the House Armed Services Committee, fumed: “Sequestration and the Budget Control Act, which are responsible for slashing the defense budget, exist because the Republican Party held our economy hostage and threatened to default on our loans.http://www.wsj.com/articles/how-obama-shrank-the-military-1438551147
 
Stop hitting yourself.
 
 
Hackman said:
You can ignore the present glaring truth as you will do here, however the fact remains that your hero Obammy and his henchmen (er Hildabeast Kerrykins) he continues to decimate the military. Yes, there is a crisis thanks to the anti-America and his anti-military progressive tactics. He ignores the Pentagon, ignores the military advisers and does what he wants, all we have seen is fail, after fail, after fail. Which then ends as the continual screwing of this country. There was a fairly stable Iraq when the Dictator was elected, and look at it now. Thanks to Obammy pulling the troops out, and ISIS moving in. Nice job Nobammy and Hillldabeast.
 
 
"We cannot afford to reduce our military readiness at a time when the threats to our security here at home and throughout the world are growing at an alarming rate,” Mr. Isakson said. “We should be using our military to send a clear signal to the rest of the world that America has no intention of standing down in the fight against the threat of terrorism worldwide.”
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/jul/8/obama-admin-cut-40k-army-soldiers/?page=all
 


There was a "fairly stable Iraq.."? In what reality?
 
 
Hackman said:
"Looming budget cuts not only are stoking anxiety among troops but also fundamentally changing how they think about the military, the services' top enlisted leaders told House lawmakers Wednesday.
"Thirty years ago, if you were a good airman and worked hard, you could serve for 20 years. I'm not sure you can say the same today," said Chief Master Sergeant of the Air Force James Cody, who added that budget uncertainty "is curtailing the ability to serve."http://www.militarytimes.com/story/military/capitol-hill/2015/02/25/enlisted-leaders-budget-concerns/23994253/
 
Perhaps if the DoD would stop wasting money (hundreds of millions of dollars) on cost overruns and projects that are not needed, projects that do not work or both they would have enough money. Just a thought.

Why is it that you and others want to make SS and other entitlement programs more efficient by getting rid of the free loaders but do not apply the same metric to your golden child?
 
Contrary to the above comment from someone who does not know, Robert Gates, who does know, says that Obama did, and always, listened to both him and the rest of his military advisors.

Gates goes further to say that he always got what he needed from Obama.

The story I posted fit right in fine with the teaser on "Mr. Straw Man's" self-aggrandizing video.

( "I will not obey that order...")

Once again, someone who never served "speaking for" those who did...

That is laughable, and carries zero weight with this veteran.

The US spends more on defense than the next Twenty-Something countries, and all but one or two of those are our allies. Enough is in fact enough.

You might want a country run by and bankrupted by the military industrialist complex, or a warrior state, but some of us do not, and...

Neither did The Founders

Obama has made mistakes, but it ain't the end of the world.

ISIS was a W creation,which arose from his adventurism, which destabilized an entire region, which is the evil genie he and his neocon buddies left for Obama and whoever is next to stuff back in the bottle.

So far, overall, O is doing more right than not.

You can quote people's sour grape opinions all day, so can I.

They prove nothing.

I was there, I went because I thought giving back was the right thing to do. Still do.

Did you?

I know what military politics is really like, and saw first hand the bloated sense of entitlement and ego/empire-centric world view. The sour-grapes quotes are just serve to refresh the ol memory
 
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There was a "fairly stable Iraq.."? In what reality?
*&*&nvbmahvd: &%&njkjfck;
Of course, its not your libtard reality sweetkins.... you remember "The Surge" the democrat-ites said would never work right?
 
"VP Biden was right and wrong.
He was right that US soldiers, under the able General Petraeus, stabilized the country in 2007-08 under the surge.   In other words, the Obama-Biden administration was handed a stable Iraq because of President Bush's leadership and, we repeat, the amazing work of US soldiers.  We are not saying that an Iraqi version of Madison was drafting a new constitution.   At the same time, the country was stable and violence was the exception."

Read more: http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2015/03/remember_when_iraq_was_hailed_as_an_obama_success_story.html#ixzz3q5JnpaxQ
 
"It was clear to me--and many others--that withdrawing all our forces would endanger the fragile stability then barely holding Iraq together," Panetta writes in the book, an excerpt of which was published on Time.com this week.

Read more: http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2015/03/remember_when_iraq_was_hailed_as_an_obama_success_story.html#ixzz3q5KG7y6N
 

Like I stated, Obammy continues to the military....
 
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Hackman said:
*&*&nvbmahvd: &%&njkjfck;
Of course, its not your libtard reality sweetkins.... you remember "The Surge" the democrat-ites said would never work right?
 
"VP Biden was right and wrong.
He was right that US soldiers, under the able General Petraeus, stabilized the country in 2007-08 under the surge.   In other words, the Obama-Biden administration was handed a stable Iraq because of President Bush's leadership and, we repeat, the amazing work of US soldiers.  We are not saying that an Iraqi version of Madison was drafting a new constitution.   At the same time, the country was stable and violence was the exception."

Read more: http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2015/03/remember_when_iraq_was_hailed_as_an_obama_success_story.html#ixzz3q5JnpaxQ
 
"It was clear to me--and many others--that withdrawing all our forces would endanger the fragile stability then barely holding Iraq together," Panetta writes in the book, an excerpt of which was published on Time.com this week.

Read more: http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2015/03/remember_when_iraq_was_hailed_as_an_obama_success_story.html#ixzz3q5KG7y6N
 

Like I stated, Obammy continues to the military....
thats "continues to decimate the military"
 
Hackman said:
thats "continues to decimate the military"
 
Tell me...I know the debt is a big issue with you guys too, but to rebuild the military from it's lowly position of the strongest army on earth, it's going to take some money.  In the unlikely event the republicans are elected in 2016, how much of their tax cuts do you think will go to rebuilding the military? 
 
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Ms Tree said:
   
Perhaps if the DoD would stop wasting money (hundreds of millions of dollars) on cost overruns and projects that are not needed, projects that do not work or both they would have enough money. Just a thought.

Why is it that you and others want to make SS and other entitlement programs more efficient by getting rid of the free loaders but do not apply the same metric to your golden child?
To be sure, there is far too much waste and abuse of DoD funds, but the pay, benefits, and careers of the troops should not be what gets cut....period.  They don't make nearly enough for what they do, not even close.
 
Maybe if Obammy could curtail his golf outings abroad with the white rich people he so despises on camera or maybe dial back Michelle's Paris shopping trips with her 40 rich friends on Air Force 2, or even start charging Nasty Pelosi for abusing her flights on her private government funded Gulfstream Jet service....the military might have more funds for the grunts. 
 
 
Hackman said:
thats "continues to decimate the military"
 

Lovely. A op-ed piece. Stability would indicate a country where soldiers were not getting killed on a regular basis and a corrupt government does not need to be supported by the end of a gun.
 

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