West Crews

[snapthis]

You are a west crew memeber, are you not? It's a simple question, why the dodge?

I've found Dom to one of the angriest AFOs.

I'm a WCM as I posted.

Dom and I think alike on this subject.

Does that make me an AFO?

 

[Pi brat]

I'm a WCM as I posted.

Dom and I think alike on this subject.

Does that make me an AFO?

Not necessarily. You could be a AC/O.

An answer? Although it's pretty obvious anyway

Have good night and weekend Snappy.

 

[nic4us]

So, do you believe in keeping contracts that you agreed to?

Do you have a point to make? An accusation perhaps?

It seems you are insinuating some contract has been broken by the West, which would be a completely false accusation!

 

[snapthis]

Not necessarily. You could be a AC/O.

An answer? Although it's pretty obvious anyway

Have good night and weekend Snappy.

Goodnight Pi, same to you as well.

 

[Pi brat]

Do you have a point to make? An accusation perhaps?

It seems you are insinuating some contract has been broken by the West, which would be a completely false accusation!

I asked Snap. He declined to answer. East -west, we're all the same by %.

 

[nic4us]

I asked Snap. He declined to answer. East -west, we're all the same by %.

But Snap did answere, he answered with a question that you failed to answere.

I guess you do not understand the term binding.

 

[prechilill]

I said before the Company wants the 190 in PHX. That does not mean they would have to move 190s from the East, but opens up possibilities of other aircraft being acquired and put there. I take as fact that the 190 counts towards min block hours West in the MOU. The MOU also will allow the mixing of metal. I now understand they can mix Check airman. For example a West C/A could give an East pilot a check and vice versa. No problem there at all, at least for me. What concerns me is I now hear (and this is rumor only) that the Company believes they can mix and match East and West pilots. The bidding systems really do not promote that, but what if a West crew member calls in sick in CLT, they put an East pilot in the seat to replace him? No problems seen in my cockpit, it would be non-issue to me, and that does not mean I accept it is legal under the MOU. I simply don't know. But there will be problems. Compare and contrast. Talk amongst yourselves. 300 words or less on my desk. RR

Fwiw, I agree 100% with your post RR

 

[Ames]

Last day of reserve in July and some 320 FO's flew up to 85-90 hours. Credit flown, MTD.


Date: 7/31/2013 Published: 8/1/2013 16:52:37
Base: PHX
Position: FO
Fleet: 320

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Day Before Assignment PilotID Name HiMin MTD Credit Seniority SIM DA MD Reserve Assigned Reason Assign Trip(Day) Notify Comment
Credit 5705
Credit 5448
Credit 8609
Credit 7821
Standby Duty Shift Assignment PilotID Name HiMin MTD Credit Seniority SIM DA MD Reserve Assigned Reason Assign Trip(Day) Notify Comment
AVAILABLE RESERVE DAYS :1
PilotID Name HiMin MTD Credit Seniority SIM DA MD Reserve Assigned Reason Assign Trip(Day) Notify Comment
Shift: SA
Credit 9049

Shift: SB
Credit 6647

Shift: SC
Crdit 6619


AVAILABLE RESERVE DAYS :2
Shift: SB Ask:1 Get:1
Credit 7300

Shift: SC
Credit 6649


AVAILABLE RESERVE DAYS :3
PilotID Name HiMin MTD Credit Seniority SIM DA MD Reserve Assigned Reason Assign Trip(Day) Notify Comment
Shift: SA
Credit 6711

Shift: SD Ask:1 Get:1
Credit 7045


AVAILABLE RESERVE DAYS :4+
PilotID Name HiMin MTD Credit Seniority SIM DA MD Reserve Assigned Reason Assign Trip(Day) Notify Comment
Shift: SA
Credit 6357
Credit 8616

Shift: SB
Credit 8046
Credit 8548

Shift: SC
Credit 7430

Shift: SD
Credit 7230
Credit 8609

Long Call Assignment PilotID Name HiMin MTD Credit Seniority SIM DA MD Reserve Assign Reason Assign1 Trip(Day) Notify Comment
Credit 7926
Credit 8856

No, no no! You have it all wrong. The eastholes claim we have a job action going and you are messing up that accusation with the facts. Now cut the crap and let the eastholes have their fantasy. 500 west pilots will soon be fired over this illegal job action. Pass it along!

 

[Pi brat]

No, no no! You have it all wrong. The eastholes claim we have a job action going and you are messing up that accusation with the facts. Now cut the crap and let the eastholes have their fantasy. 500 west pilots will soon be fired over this illegal job action. Pass it along!

Yeah, east pilots REALLY think you guys have a job action going on. Right over your head.....

 

[Ames]

I said before the Company wants the 190 in PHX. That does not mean they would have to move 190s from the East, but opens up possibilities of other aircraft being acquired and put there. I take as fact that the 190 counts towards min block hours West in the MOU. The MOU also will allow the mixing of metal. I now understand they can mix Check airman. For example a West C/A could give an East pilot a check and vice versa. No problem there at all, at least for me. What concerns me is I now hear (and this is rumor only) that the Company believes they can mix and match East and West pilots. The bidding systems really do not promote that, but what if a West crew member calls in sick in CLT, they put an East pilot in the seat to replace him? No problems seen in my cockpit, it would be non-issue to me, and that does not mean I accept it is legal under the MOU. I simply don't know. But there will be problems. Compare and contrast. Talk amongst yourselves. 300 words or less on my desk. RR

I agree. Shortly after the POR we will have a final contract. Once that contract is implemented the Nicolau list that Parker accepted in 2007 will come into effect. East and west crews will fly together and bid accordingly. Hope that's still a non-issue for you when every open captain vacancy in CLT, DCA and PHL are obtained by we lowly rookies. It will happen, and soon.

Unless, of course all west pilots are fired over the work action we are now being accused of on this thread.

 

[Ames]

Can you expand on this, as I don't see it in the latest bid.

Also, did you see the crew news where Captain Gay asked if the Nicolau would be used at POR and Kirby said, without hesitation "No." Are you saying this because you think Judge Silver will force it?

Kirby was telling the truth. The Nicolau will not be used at POR. It will be used shortly after POR, when the final contract is completed. Read the TA. Seniority list to be used upon a final contract.

 

[Ames]

You are a west crew memeber, are you not? It's a simple question, why the dodge?

I've found Dom to one of the angriest AFOs.

Dom is a senior captain.

 

[Ames]

Yeah, east pilots REALLY think you guys have a job action going on. Right over your head.....

What went over my head. That was stated in the beginning of this thread by luvthe9 - post #2.

 

[Pi brat]

Kirby was telling the truth. The Nicolau will not be used at POR. It will be used shortly after POR, when the final contract is completed. Read the TA. Seniority list to be used upon a final contract.

Actually you need to read it. The company had 12 months to use it after all 3 legs of the stool were in place. But, at POR all previous contracts are null and void. Absent Judge Silver's intervention, I see things still separate. But hey, keep on believing (and sending money.)

 

[Pi brat]

What went over my head. That was stated in the beginning of this thread by luvthe9 - post #2.

Wake up AF/O. Stirring.