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TechBoy said:
I'm not sure which airline you work for, but you make a great case for avoiding it. For someone in the customer service business, you have a lot to learn.

I don't know who made you king/queen of the board, but it's a public Internet board and anyone can post on it. There seems to be no other requirement. If you want to have an employee only board, go start one yourself. Otherwise, feel free to ignore any posts from people that you don't want to hear from.
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You know what - I could care less whether you fly on the airline that I work for, it's not as though there's an absence of people willing to pay rock bottom fares on any airline, regardless of the service. In fact, they are the majority of travelers these days. Frankly, I don't come to THIS board to hear self righteous frequent flyers tell us all how much they want for nothing and then remind us of "who pays our salaries" and I'm under NO obligation to guard my statements for fear of offending a customer here. If you don't like what I wrote then you, too, can choose to ignore it or go somewhere else. If you wish to whine about airlines and their employees then go do it somewhere where others can whine and commiserate with you. Frankly, you would probably fit in there better.
 
MrAeroMan said:
Frontier isn't the only one. Independence Air is skating on some thin ice as well. Their loads are less than half of what they projected and they're losing their shirt.
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Not sure you know what you're talking about!! Maybe just wishful thinking and jealousy on your part. I flew FLYI 4 times last week. Busy terminals, counted numbers boarding and deplaning while waiting for my flight and they were in the 75-90% range. Clean, updated interiors on planes, on-time, excellent service, etc. James Carville was even on my flight into PIT on Friday afternoon. He could have done the safety briefing live!! They alkso received their FIRST Airbus last Thursday. It was sitting at B28 fresh from its overseas delivery!!
 
You think so? Sound more like an employee to me. Anyway, here's a press release I found. Not everyone agrees with your opinion I guess.



TEXT- Moody's may cut FLYi, and unit's debt ratings

(The following statement was released by the rating agency)

Approximately $230 Million of Debt Securities Affected

NEW YORK, Aug 27 - Moody's Investors Service placed the debt ratings (Senior Implied Rating, B3) of FLYi, Inc. and its primary operating subsidiary Atlantic Coast Airlines, Inc. (together "FLYi") under review for possible downgrade.

Ratings placed under review are as follows:

FLYi, Inc.

$125 million of senior unsecured convertible notes: Caa3

Atlantic Coast Airlines, Inc.

Senior Implied Rating B3

Issuer Rating Caa3

Series 1997 Enhanced Equipment Trust Certificates

Class A Baa3

Class B B1

Class C B3

The review was prompted by the difficulties the company is experiencing during the initial stages of its transition from a fee for service carrier to a fully independent airline including lower than expected load factors and yields, higher than anticipated costs associated with the transition, and an earlier than expected termination of its fee for service contract with Delta Air Lines, Inc. The review will focus on the cash flow and liquidity implications of these factors and the likelihood that the company's current substantial cash balances will be sufficient to support operations until a financially stable business base can be built. Moody's will assess the ability and the length of time necessary for the company to increase currently low passenger load factors at fare levels sufficient to generate a profit. Moody's notes that the rapid expansion of capacity at Dulles International Airport (FLYi's primary hub) has been one of the primary factors in the under performance of these two metrics. Also included in the review will be an assessment of the impact on liquidity of the earlier than expected termination of the company's contract with Delta Air Lines, Inc., the cost of conversion of the remainder of the regional jet fleet to service as independence Air, and the costs associated with disposing of aircraft that are or will be grounded by the company as a result of the cancellation of the United and Delta contracts. Moody's anticipates that cash will decline from current levels ($345 million at the end of June 2004) if current business pressures and high fuel prices persist. In addition, FLYi faces large aircraft lease payments in early 2005. An expectation that cash flows will be sufficient to enable the company to maintain adequate liquidity through the seasonally weak first calendar quarter would be supportive of the current ratings but any expectations of protracted weak cash flow and eroding liquidity would result in a downgrade. Moody's will also review the current values of the aircraft securing the company's Enhanced Equipment Trust Certificates. The aircraft securing these certificates include eight J-41 turboprops and six CRJ-200ER aircraft. Should the loan to value associated with the Class A certificates be determined, in Moody's opinion, to have deteriorated to a level substantially higher than 50%, a downgrade of these certificates may be deemed to be warranted. Junior debt classes will be adjusted accordingly.

FLYi, Inc. and its primary subsidiary, Atlantic Coast Airlines, Inc. doing business as independence Air and are headquartered in Dulles, VA.
 
Cart Pusher said:
You know what - I could care less whether you fly on the airline that I work for, it's not as though there's an absence of people willing to pay rock bottom fares on any airline, regardless of the service. In fact, they are the majority of travelers these days. Frankly, I don't come to THIS board to hear self righteous frequent flyers tell us all how much they want for nothing and then remind us of "who pays our salaries" and I'm under NO obligation to guard my statements for fear of offending a customer here. If you don't like what I wrote then you, too, can choose to ignore it or go somewhere else. If you wish to whine about airlines and their employees then go do it somewhere where others can whine and commiserate with you. Frankly, you would probably fit in there better.
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I don't really care why you come to THIS board or whether you come to this board at all. I don't care if you want to whine about how customers should pay you more, or management is screwing you and feathering their own bed, or anything else. And I don't care if customers want to whine about how bad service has gotten in aviation. That's what chat boards are all about. A place for people to whine, exchange info, whatever. So don't tell people to go away. If you don't like what they say/who they are, just ignore them.
 

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