We need MORE of this!

[eolesen]

And most of these riots were about something really realy stupid.

Who is talking about riots? I'm talking about the massive concentrations of uneducated and unemployed people, with single parent households outnumbering dual parent households; cities with massive amounts of debt, corruption, and nobody else to blame except for the Democrats who have run those urban areas into the ground, and the unions who continue to extort above market wages from a continually shrinking tax base.

Sure, there are states that are poorer, but they're also far lower population densities. You won't get the best schools or police/fire in a farming community of 2000 because the tax base is so low to begin with, nor will you from states where the GDP is largely based on agriculture. But those states have always been poor in comparison to the manufacturing states, and always will.


Here's the problem in places like Detroit, Baltimore, St. Louis, and Chicago:
 

Black children (55 percent) and Hispanic children (31 percent) were more likely to live with one parent than non-Hispanic White children (21 percent) or Asian children (13 percent).6

You want to blame that on politicians? The GOP isn't the one out there promoting or enabling single parent households, and those stats certainly aren't due to a lack of access to abortion, since the abortion rates by race are just as high.

It's about the culture, stupid. Not political labels.

Look at who focuses on family, faith and values, and that's where you'll see lower crime rates, higher high school graduation rates, and less of a need to seek out welfare.

 

[SparrowHawk]

I'M totally, IN FAVOR of elimination of welfare.
 
Let's cut food stamps to ZERO on the same day that Wells Fago, CitiBank, Bank of America and all the other recipients of the TARP bailout reimburse the the US Treasury the roughly 800 Billion in bailouts
 
Let's eliminate the EITC on the very same day we end Wind Energy subsidies.
 
Then of course we have the oil & gas subsidies, farm subsidies.,
 
Get rud of that welfare and you can eliminate the piddling little amount spent on SNAP< EITC, MediCaid, TANF and the host if social programs
 
If we''re going to rnd welfare thens let's start where the big money is

 

[La Li Lu Le Lo]

I'M totally, IN FAVOR of elimination of welfare.
 
Let's cut food stamps to ZERO on the same day that Wells Fago, CitiBank, Bank of America and all the other recipients of the TARP bailout reimburse the the US Treasury the roughly 800 Billion in bailouts
 
Let's eliminate the EITC on the very same day we end Wind Energy subsidies.
 
Then of course we have the oil & gas subsidies, farm subsidies.,
 
Get rud of that welfare and you can eliminate the piddling little amount spent on SNAP< EITC, MediCaid, TANF and the host if social programs
 
If we''re going to rnd welfare thens let's start where the big money is

Oh please.... business in this country produces wealth, the government does not and a parasite certainly does not.  
 
How can you call it welfare when the wealth of this country originates from business?

 

[SparrowHawk]

Corporation Create wealth often by coercion and outright bribery. 
 
78 of the NEW Congress members have family members who are lobbyists.
 
Lobbyists whe see to regulate though rising the cost of new competition out of existence. Then of course we have a senior executive from Monsanto as head of the FDA. Nope, no conflict of Interest there, not until the nicknamed "Monsanto Protection Act"
 
We have the B-35 bomber program that has spent enough taxpayer money on a plane that no one in the military really wants that has cost enough to buy a house free and clead for every American Family. 
 
That'd Crony Capitalism and they confiscate our wages weekly to fund it.

 

[Kev3188]

Oh please.... business in this country produces wealth, the government does not and a parasite certainly does not.  
 
How can you call it welfare when the wealth of this country originates from business?

No, workers at those business produce the wealth.

 

[777 fixer]

No, workers at those business produce the wealth.

 
Add to that the middle class being the "job creators".

 

[Ms Tree]

Business do not build stuff or increase employment unless there is demand. The consumers are the ones who create demand. A business will not invest or hire with a hope that people will come. It's not Field of Dreams.

 

[signals]

Things 700UW didn't say:
 
1. Paid for over half of my school out of my own pocket
2. Got out of school Friday, started a job the next Monday.
 
 
Going to school to retrain after job loss is not the same thing as sitting up on welfare your whole life and you damn well know it. Quit playing stupid..... if your playing. 
 
You also neglected to acknowledge that this law allows for one to seek job training and continue to draw welfare.
 
Face it the law works.

Sounds like you were privileged. Was nepotism involved?

 

[signals]

I am not the one that was ranting for 4 posts in a row.

Yeah, you can say it all in one multi-quote!

 

[signals]

Oh please.... business in this country produces wealth, the government does not and a parasite certainly does not.  
 
How can you call it welfare when the wealth of this country originates from business?

You do realize that a parasite from an employer's point of view is YOU. An employer creates a job and you are a leech who needs a job. Unless you create jobs, you are a parasite like the rest of us who work for the man.

 

[777 fixer]

You want to blame that on politicians? 

It's about the culture, stupid. Not political labels.
 

 
But isn't that what you are doing when you say Baltimore, Detroit, St. Louis and Chicago are all shining examples on a hill of what the country can look forward with Democrats in control. 
 
 
 

Look at who focuses on family, faith and values, and that's where you'll see lower crime rates, higher high school graduation rates, and less of a need to seek out welfare.

 
I'm going to call bull crap on that one E.  I know the Republicans love to run on the whole family, faith and values thing but the evidence shows it does not equate to lower crime or better schools.  When you look at states with the worst performing schools and highest crime almost all of them are controlled by the GOP.
 
http://247wallst.com/special-report/2015/01/02/the-most-dangerous-states-in-america-2/4/
 
http://247wallst.com/special-report/2015/01/09/americas-best-and-worst-school-systems/5/
 
And for fun I'll throw in states with lowest life expectancy.  Evidently faith won't keep you from dying prematurely.
 
http://247wallst.com/special-report/2014/12/23/states-with-the-lowest-life-expectancies/2/

 

[La Li Lu Le Lo]

Lobbyists whe see to regulate though rising the cost of new competition out of existence. 

I can't argue with that.
 

No, workers at those business produce the wealth.

That is a general statement with a lot of flaws.
 
If what you were saying were true than the U.S. Government (the largest employer)  would produce massive wealth but we both know...... it doesn't
 
Then there is the fact that some workers are cost only. They produce no wealth at all but are necessary for the business. 
 
Few employees produce money at all without use of company assents.
 

Add to that the middle class being the "job creators".

People with no money don't pay other people..... because they don't have it to pay.
 

Business do not build stuff or increase employment unless there is demand. The consumers are the ones who create demand. A business will not invest or hire with a hope that people will come. It's not Field of Dreams.

Unless they are in a UNION shop with an inflated employee count and a bunch of lazy employees they can't fire.......

 

[Glenn Quagmire]

If what you were saying were true than the U.S. Government (the largest employer)  would produce massive wealth but we both know...... it doesn't
 
Then there is the fact that some workers are cost only. They produce no wealth at all but are necessary for the business. 
 
Few employees produce money at all without use of company assets.

Few companies could operate at all without using at least some government (city, state, federal) assets. How much do you think it would cost to fly if airlines had to build and maintain the nations national airspace system (radars, navaids, ground communication sites, ATC towers, TRACON's, and ARTCC's, etc.)

There are many other things government workers provide that you use every day while bitching that they are overpaid, should not have any retirement benefits (unless they are less than yours). But hey, don't let that get in the way of a good anti-everything narrative. You are a shining example of what government can produce (a retrained laid off worker who is now a productive member of society, although I disagree with almost everything you believe).

Since it is public service recognition week, this is for you:

"Since 1985, the first week of every May has been designated as Public Service Recognition Week, a time set aside to honor the women and men who serve our nation as government employees at the federal, state, county and local levels.

This year, I thought Id pay tribute to government workers by reflecting on what life would look like without them. Politicians of a certain brew, so to speak, no doubt would be crooning Here Comes the Sun at such a scenario. But in reality, without public workers on the job, wed all be having A Hard Days Night.

Why? Because without government workers, there would be

A military without weapons, vehicles, training or paychecks.

Classrooms full of students but no teachers.

Dilapidated roads, highways, coastlines and airways.

Polluted rivers, toxic air, contaminated water and pesticide-laden food.

Empty mailboxes and dramatically higher shipping costs for businesses and consumers.

Its easy for politicians to campaign against a government bureaucracy when theyre running for office. But when they get to Washington, or the state capital, or the local council, who do you think is running their offices, preparing their schedules, and helping them enact the laws and policies they support? Thats right its government workers.

As much as it hurts me to say it, the politicians themselves are government workers even the ones who spout such disdain for the institution.

When you think about it, government employees touch our lives each and every day, literally from the moment we are born to the day we die. They process your birth certificate, your drivers license, your marriage license, building permits for your new home, adoption papers for your new child, your will, and eventually your death certificate.

"Without our dedicated federal employees, there would be

No law enforcement officers to defend our borders, patrol our streets or lock up criminals.

No doctors or nurses to care for our veterans and wounded warriors.

No investigators, judges and other staff to enforce civil rights laws that protect against job-related discrimination.

No oversight of financial institutions, food and drug companies, utilities, elections, and workplaces.

No forecasts and warnings of impending storms and natural disasters, and no emergency workers to respond in their aftermath.

Even more impressive, the size of this federal workforce has shrunk over time when compared to the population being served. There was one federal employee for every 78 U.S. residents in 1953, compared to one employee for every 147 residents in 2009. Even in raw numbers, the size of the federal workforce is at its smallest level in 50 years."

https://www.afge.org/index.cfm?ContentID=4009

 

[La Li Lu Le Lo]

You do realize that a parasite from an employer's point of view is YOU. An employer creates a job and you are a leech who needs a job. Unless you create jobs, you are a parasite like the rest of us who work for the man.

Perhaps you should familiarize your self with the concept of symbiosis. 
 
Are you all out of stupid or do you have more incoherent, nonsensical, ramblings left to give through what is laughably called a post?

 

[La Li Lu Le Lo]

It's about the culture, stupid. Not political labels.

But isn't that what you are doing when you say Baltimore, Detroit, St. Louis and Chicago are all shining examples on a hill of what the country can look forward with Democrats in control. 

Again eolesen you are aiming WAY too high.
 
You have to dumb it down for them.
 
Sad isn't it?