JAMAKE1
Veteran
The white house as already stated that they will veto this bill...
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The white house as already stated that they will veto this bill...
NO Fly didn't slap anything but his own face - I suspect that you are not a member of the AFA or you would know this... Fly is a whiner and a complainer that wants something for nothing and is obviously uneducated about the topic, similar to StrAAight, IORFA, FAMikey etc... I don't stick up for anything that I don't believe in, and there isn't one person that can change my mind.. UAL is a decent airline NHBB but this isn't about UAL - all airlines are practically the same now, no matter how you mix it, they all have their bad points and their good. We are talking about representation here and it is obvious that Fly has been burned or something b/c they are bitter. It amazes me that you could lay the law down in front people on this board and that would say it isn't so.. The hate makes me ill, and I hope that whatever nasty post you folks post today about me, you think twice, because you are no better than the next, and if you have a solution then go sale it... Bitc++++ will get you nowhere and being proactive will get you everywhere... Little lesson I learned myself believe it or not!!!
We heard the same line the last two times AFA decided Delta FA's needed to be represented by them.
APFA is not a member of the AFL-CIO.
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"Beauty",
For reasons that I won't go into.........You(on your best day) COULD'NT HOLD A CANDLE TO ..FLY !!!!
She(like a few of the other VETERAN F/A's on here)(Young at heart, yet SEASONED well with experience) has "her" finger on the Pulse of this Industry better than you could EVER Imagine !!!!
I'm sorry, I couldn't even finish your first sentence. the 'volunteers' organizing Delta are most certainly being taken off the line and receiving 92 hours of pay per month. How do I know? Good friend is one of them. You need to EDUCATE yourself boyfriend. There is NOTHING grassroots about afa/CWA except the bodies they are burying underneath that grass.
A "group" from Delta came? How many? 5? 8? 22? hello???? They (AFA) bombed miserably 6 years ago and it cost the dues paying members plenty of $$$ and now they are at it again.
Has my rent gone up in 16 years? Hmmm, well let's see. My PAY sure has NOT....in fact, it went DOWN!!!!. Seems like a mighty bad time for the AFA to start asking for an increase, don't you think?
Boyfriend, I've been in since way before you were, and if I've learned anything, it's this: you aren't changing Jack! Jack is here and he likes how he looks. Do you understand that? Those f/a's who haven't worked for years who now represent us, they have no intentions of ever flying again, they like making the big bucks and there is no way they are coming back on the line. You can run around and pretend your making a difference, but you aren't, you are a hamster in a wheel. Why do you think they refuse to allow us to use Webcams or to have an internet board? Has that occured to you? Do you suppose it is because they don't want to actually hear what you have to say? Status quo, Joe.
Delta is doing GREAT without AFA, just the threat of them keeps Delta mgmt giving them exactly what they need. Way to go DL. Remember, who was more hurt in bk, UAL, US, NW (all AFA carriers) or Delta (non AFA carrier)...........think hard...........hint: NOT DELTA.
Hi Jamake!
NO Fly didn't slap anything but his own face - I suspect that you are not a member of the AFA or you would know this... Fly is a whiner and a complainer that wants something for nothing and is obviously uneducated about the topic, similar to StrAAight, IORFA, FAMikey etc... I don't stick up for anything that I don't believe in, and there isn't one person that can change my mind.. UAL is a decent airline NHBB but this isn't about UAL - all airlines are practically the same now, no matter how you mix it, they all have their bad points and their good. We are talking about representation here and it is obvious that Fly has been burned or something b/c they are bitter. It amazes me that you could lay the law down in front people on this board and that would say it isn't so.. The hate makes me ill, and I hope that whatever nasty post you folks post today about me, you think twice, because you are no better than the next, and if you have a solution then go sale it... Bitc++++ will get you nowhere and being proactive will get you everywhere... Little lesson I learned myself believe it or not!!!
If you weren't so pathetic, you would be entertaining.
Oh, poor little StrAAight is at it again with the slurs and compliments. Once again what did you get outside of BK?? Thats what i thought?? LOL - YOU are entertaining my little one, time will tell.
Wow! Where do I begin?
First off, we did approach AFA. It is simply too expensive to start our own in-house union. While they have their faults-they are really the only game in town for us right now.
I do not subscribe to the theory that "the threat of a union is better than having one". After 14 years with Delta, I am just tired of everything changing DAILY on a whim of a new CEO, new SVP of In-Flight, or anyone else who comes through the management revolving door. I'm tired of hearing "trust us" from someone who is gone a year later. Pay, staffing, benefits, a reserve program that usurps seniority, the list goes on.
I have been a supervisor in the past, and I was appalled to hear how much money (millions of dollars) Delta gives outside union-busting firms to keep us from organizing and getting a contract.
I'm tired of hearing smart comments from pilots. I had one recently tell me that he hopes we DON'T organize, because there's only "so much pie to go around". Screw you!
Our last vote occurred right after 9/11. During the Anthrax scare. During the "we're too patriotic" to do this to Delta phase. And we still managed to get 1/3 of the F/A's on board. I think MANY will be surprised at the numbers that vote this time.
The times have changed. This industry has changed. I wish, rather than this being an AFA v. APFA tirade, we could all focus on the issues that matter. Regardless of our union, our profession has suffered BIG time. I think it's truly sad that people on here are touting their crappy contracts as something to be proud of. As long as Delta's 14,000 F/A's are non-union, Delta will use it to their advantage, and we'll drag down the "bar" for all other F/A's. We should all be focused on the same thing: solidarity.
I am a proud union member at my "other" job. Nurses seem to stand together much better than F/A's-regardless of which union we belong to.
Lastly, I hope my colleagues make an informed decision before casting their vote. I have many friends who are "anti-union". I respect their decision-as they do mine. I just wish Americans would see that as long as CEO's and executives continue to go unchecked, and look out only for themselves, the middle class is going to see things get tougher and tougher.
Wow! Where do I begin?
First off, we did approach AFA. It is simply too expensive to start our own in-house union. While they have their faults-they are really the only game in town for us right now.
I do not subscribe to the theory that "the threat of a union is better than having one". After 14 years with Delta, I am just tired of everything changing DAILY on a whim of a new CEO, new SVP of In-Flight, or anyone else who comes through the management revolving door. I'm tired of hearing "trust us" from someone who is gone a year later. Pay, staffing, benefits, a reserve program that usurps seniority, the list goes on.
I'm tired of hearing smart comments from pilots. I had one recently tell me that he hopes we DON'T organize, because there's only "so much pie to go around". Screw you!
The times have changed. This industry has changed. I wish, rather than this being an AFA v. APFA tirade, we could all focus on the issues that matter. Regardless of our union, our profession has suffered BIG time.
I think it's truly sad that people on here are touting their crappy contracts as something to be proud of. As long as Delta's 14,000 F/A's are non-union, Delta will use it to their advantage, and we'll drag down the "bar" for all other F/A's. We should all be focused on the same thing: solidarity.
I am a proud union member at my "other" job. Nurses seem to stand together much better than F/A's-regardless of which union we belong to.
Lastly, I hope my colleagues make an informed decision before casting their vote. I have many friends who are "anti-union". I respect their decision-as they do mine. I just wish Americans would see that as long as CEO's and executives continue to go unchecked, and look out only for themselves, the middle class is going to see things get tougher and tougher.
Despite our deteriorating working conditions, pay cuts, etc., I believe that AA flight attendants are pretty unified, unlike AFA. We have our differences, but I think most of us are very intent on raising the bar in these negotiations. We have a very strong history of coming together, in solidarity, when things get bad.
Jealous Jealous Jealous, How unified are you ? Unified enough for a Revote, to change that vote to a yes??? You gave it up, just like you did on the playground and now you are bitter. Get over it, you are the most negative person i have seen, but I love it, you look like such a fool.... If DAL wants to be AFA then so be it, you will be your pathetic little APFA who will once again get you very little if anything in your next round of negotiations, but hey, you will still have that industry leading contract right???
You really do sound like a mental patient. As I've stated before, you don't need to be in a flight attendant uniform; you need to be in a straightjacket.
Get some help.