USAPA's Status Quo Lawsuit Against US Airways Update

[USA320Pilot]

The U.S. District Court for the Eastern District of New York issued the following order on Tuesday, September 6 in USAPA's Status Quo lawsuit filed by its new PIC attorneys:

"Full docket text: ORDER granting [18] Motion to Adjourn Conference: The conference scheduled for September 21st is adjourned without date. Counsel are directed to immediately request the re-scheduling of the initial conference should this case survive the anticipated motion to dismiss. So Ordered by Chief Magistrate Judge Steven M. Gold on 9/6/2011. (Vasquez, Lea)"

USAPA held its continued BPR meeting on September 7, which is the day after the Court informed the Plaintiff and Defendant of its "anticipated motion to dismiss" the Status Quo case. Where is the Association's transparency and should the pilots be informed of this important decision?

 

[prechilill]

The U.S. District Court for the Eastern District of New York issued the following order on Tuesday, September 6 in USAPA's Status Quo lawsuit filed by its new PIC attorneys:

"Full docket text: ORDER granting [18] Motion to Adjourn Conference: The conference scheduled for September 21st is adjourned without date. Counsel are directed to immediately request the re-scheduling of the initial conference should this case survive the anticipated motion to dismiss. So Ordered by Chief Magistrate Judge Steven M. Gold on 9/6/2011. (Vasquez, Lea)"

USAPA held its continued BPR meeting on September 7, which is the day after the Court informed the Plaintiff and Defendant of its "anticipated motion to dismiss" the Status Quo case. Where is the Association's transparency and should the pilots be informed of this important decision?

I love it!!! USAPA = circus

Where are the clowns?

 

[Move2CLT]

I can see Theur with his union transparency has failed to disclose this USAPA setback.

Great union you guys got there.

 

[Pi brat]

I love it!!! USAPA = circus

Where are the clowns?

Soooo tempting...............

 

[Pi brat]

The U.S. District Court for the Eastern District of New York issued the following order on Tuesday, September 6 in USAPA's Status Quo lawsuit filed by its new PIC attorneys:

"Full docket text: ORDER granting [18] Motion to Adjourn Conference: The conference scheduled for September 21st is adjourned without date. Counsel are directed to immediately request the re-scheduling of the initial conference should this case survive the anticipated motion to dismiss. So Ordered by Chief Magistrate Judge Steven M. Gold on 9/6/2011. (Vasquez, Lea)"

USAPA held its continued BPR meeting on September 7, which is the day after the Court informed the Plaintiff and Defendant of its "anticipated motion to dismiss" the Status Quo case. Where is the Association's transparency and should the pilots be informed of this important decision?

So educate us non-lawyers. Seems like the court is saying "It is expected that in all probability the company will file a motion to dismiss and if it is granted the time and money on the conference would be wasted, so let's see what happens and if it is not dismissed we can reschedule". Would that be right? If so, it doesn't seem like a big deal and more efficient. Is this earth shattering?

 

[Move2CLT]

Soooo tempting...............

Don't do it Pi, I'll come down on you and scare you off for a week again.

 

[Pi brat]

Don't do it Pi, I'll come down on you and scare you off for a week again.

Yes, that's it. Yeah, scary, we will go with that.

 

[Move2CLT]

So educate us non-lawyers. Seems like the court is saying "It is expected that in all probability the company will file a motion to dismiss and if it is granted the time and money on the conference would be wasted, so let's see what happens and if it is not dismissed we can reschedule". Would that be right? If so, it doesn't seem like a big deal and more efficient. Is this earth shattering?

In all seriousness Pi, when a court adjourns without a date it means that your case is dead. It's like chess where the moves are pretty much known a few steps ahead. Same thing here. The court knows a MtD is coming and they know it will be granted. Otherwise, a date would absolutely have been set.

That crap up in NY is done without a doubt but I'm sure you can confirm this elsewhere.

Right now USAPA is consulting with the new law firm and figuring out it options. Seham, as you know, has moved on to SWA.

 

[SparrowHawk]

So educate us non-lawyers. Seems like the court is saying "It is expected that in all probability the company will file a motion to dismiss and if it is granted the time and money on the conference would be wasted, so let's see what happens and if it is not dismissed we can reschedule". Would that be right? If so, it doesn't seem like a big deal and more efficient. Is this earth shattering?

Yes that's what it usually means. However it is generally not a good sign when it happens.

I still remain unimpressed with Lee Seham's skill as an attorney, although I'm quite pleased with his Sales Skills.

 

[Move2CLT]

Yes, that's it. Yeah, scary, we will go with that.

Ya, I knew that would make you shudder.

Hey Mutation, where are you? It's too quite and sane over here.

 

[Pi brat]

In all seriousness Pi, when a court adjourns without a date it means that your case is dead. It's like chess where the moves are pretty much known a few steps ahead. Same thing here. The court knows a MtD is coming and they know it will be granted. Otherwise, a date would absolutely have been set.

That crap up in NY is done without a doubt but I'm sure you can confirm this elsewhere.

Right now USAPA is consulting with the new law firm and figuring out it options. Seham, as you know, has moved on to SWA.

Ok, thanks for your viewpoint.

 

[mrbreeze]

So educate us non-lawyers. Seems like the court is saying "It is expected that in all probability the company will file a motion to dismiss and if it is granted the time and money on the conference would be wasted, so let's see what happens and if it is not dismissed we can reschedule". Would that be right? If so, it doesn't seem like a big deal and more efficient. Is this earth shattering?

I agree, just a normal procedure in the courts, nothing to report. Reading CM's stuff is like the teaser on the local TV news..."big sensational story, after the break"....when it is nothing to waste your time on. Just another CM attention grabber.....must have been ignored as a child.

breeze

 

[Move2CLT]

Yes that's what it usually means. However it is generally not a good sign when it happens.

I still remain unimpressed with Lee Seham's skill as an attorney, although I'm quite pleased with his Sales Skills.

What does Seham have to do with this?

 

[SparrowHawk]

Ya, I knew that would make you shudder.

Hey Mutation, where are you? It's too quite and sane over here.

Just a small point of order if I may? It's "Quiet". When you at least attempt to spell something correctly it gives you more credibility don't you think? Or perhaps you don't think?

 

[mrbreeze]

Just a small point of order if I may? It's "Quiet". When you at least attempt to spell something correctly it gives you more credibility don't you think? Or perhaps you don't think?