US/Delta Slot and Facility Swap at LGA

[FutureUScapt]

American, Delta and Continental will be trying for additional slots. All are looking to add service to Northern and Central Brazilian cities

AA: agreed

DL already holds plenty of dormant frequencies that it can use to fly to cities in northern/central Brazil. They could make a case for JFK-GIG, but could technically fly that using some of their unrestricted frequencies that were being used for LAX-GRU and JFK-GRU (currently less than daily). All in all, they can't make a great case for explaining why they need even more frequencies than what they currently hold.

CO: You may be right but I have to disagree with you on this as well. I think CO realizes that their hubs are not well positioned to provide service to the smaller Brazilian cities. DL is finding this out the hard way in ATL.

 

[VAflyGal]

Revenue wise, it would seem that trading DCA for LGA is a good move. I don't have the figures on what the yields were in LGA before the growth of other LCCs such as JetBlue's build up at JFK and the pressure it put on yields at LGA. Now with Southwest in play at LGA, yields will continuously be under pressure. At DCA, there is very limited LCC competion from AirTran and Spirit and it should remain that way with the limited growth opportunities there for airlines like JetBlue and Southwest.

Coincidentally, AirTran announced they are pulling out of EWR and swapping slots with CO at LGA. AirTran also announced new service today from LGA to DCA, MCO, and IND.

All this talk about build up and pressure and swapping and pulling out sounds like an airline swingers network.
Sorry, had to take it there. Heheheh

 

[flyus2]

Seems like good news. But having two separate terminals in LGA will be fun for our pax. :huh:

The mainline flights will be going to CLT PHL PIT ILM. Probably not too many connections off the Shuttle. So keeping the Shuttle in a differnt terminal proably won't impact the pax.

 

[Furloughd4now]

The mainline flights will be going to CLT PHL PIT ILM. Probably not too many connections off the Shuttle. So keeping the Shuttle in a differnt terminal proably won't impact the pax.

They said most flights will be originators and that DCA will not be used for connects .... except maybe irregular ops, or oversold CLT flights; which should be daily .... this should be fun.

Oh, and why ILM? Chief Pilot lives there? I know why we go to PIT ... commuter flight h34r:

 

[oldiesfan]

Oh, and why ILM? Chief Pilot lives there?

My question too. You retain the Shuttle (BOS/DCA), the east coast hubs (CLT/PHL), and isn't PIT a major maintenance base? So you could make a case for PIT.

But ILM? Why ILM? I'll ask it this way--is US brown-nosing some politician? If that's the case, it smells (pun intended) like some years back when WN opened JAN (Jackson, MS). JAN? Why JAN? Oh yeah, Trent Lott.

 

[markkus757]

ALB - Piedmont
BWI - Piedmont / Chautauqua / Air Wisconsin
BGR - Piedmont / Air Wisconsin
BUF - Piedmont / PSA / Air Wisconsin
BTV - Piedmont
CHS - Air Wisconsin
CLT - Republic / PSA / Air Wisconsin
CHO - Colgan
CHS - Republic / Chautauqua / Air Wisconsin
DAY - PSA
GSO - Chautauqua / Air Wisconsin
HYA - Colgan
IND - Republic / Chautauqua / Air Wisconsin
ITH - Piedmont
SDF - Chautauqua / Air Wisconsin
MHT - Colgan
MVY - Colgan
ACK - Colgan
ORF - Piedmont / Air Wisconsin
PHL - Piedmont / Republic / Air Wisconsin
PIT - Republic / Chautauqua / Air Wisconsin
PWM - Piedmont / Air Wisconsin
PVD - Piedmont
RDU - Chautauqua / Air Wisconsin
RIC - Piedmont / Republic / Chautauqua / Air Wisconsin
ROA - Piedmont
ROC - Piedmont / Chautauqua
SAV - Republic
SYR - Piedmont
ILM - Chautauqua / Air Wisconsin

Thanks ISP.

 

[AirbusAVE]

Great news! Nice to see airways building off it's strengths. I assume this now means DCA is a hub for airways.




How does US do in Boston?

 

[gizmo_sc]

There are probably more CHAIRMAN DIVIDEND MILEAGE members in ILM than in any other city. THUS the FLIGHTS. Check with the agents in ILM and see what they say.

 

[WhatBag?]

Great news! Nice to see airways building off it's strengths. I assume this now means DCA is a hub for airways.




How does US do in Boston?

ask airways.

 

[Non Rev]

There are probably more CHAIRMAN DIVIDEND MILEAGE members in ILM than in any other city. THUS the FLIGHTS. Check with the agents in ILM and see what they say.

So you are saying ILM has more CP's than LGA, PHL, BOS, CLT, etal?

Oh yeah agents are the best source of info..............lol.

 

[US AIRWAYS FAN]

DCA MIA......some one correct me if I am wrong but US I thought a long time ago already served this market didn't they? They pulled it because they said it was mostly a leasure route (this was old US of course).

DCA to Montreal? I would think Toronto would have been a better fit. They used to have it......it used to do well. Why they pulled it I don't understand.

DCA is going to be a mess. Gate 35 A/B is going to be a mad house. And they better beef up the staff at DCA.

They should have brought back DCA IAH.

 

[Pi brat]

DCA is going to be a mess. Gate 35 A/B is going to be a mad house. And they better beef up the staff at DCA.

From the cockpit view DCA is not as well run on the US end as LGA is, IMHO. ATC there is much better. Not a slam on the LGA controllers, I guess traffic is more constrained.

 

[hp_fa]

Until they figure out how to operate the airline it seems that all of this sounds more like either Sim City Airline or shuffling the deck chairs on the Titanic.

 

[Dog Wonder]

"Hey Doug, I just traded the Yankees and the Mets for the Nationals. The Nationals got some prospects and they are cheap. Got some Japanese guy to be named later. Do you think Delta will like me now?"

"Crellin was right, no one likes you Scooter."

 

[usa1]

Delta to Create LaGuardia Hub After Deal With US Air

The agreement, Delta said, will consolidate its operations at LaGuardia and allow it to create a domestic hub at the airport.

http://www.foxbusiness.com/story/markets/i...a-hub-deal-air/