Busdrvr said: Did you include average stage length in your analysis? What time period was covered by AVMARK''s yield study?
Analyst says: Do not shoot the messenger; Chip is only reporting the numbers. Complain to AVMARK if you do not like how their data portrays UAL. As I said before, UAL is a sinking ship! There are not any financial analyses that can make the UAL numbers look good.
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Chip said: During the first four months of this year the carrier lost more money than any airline in the world, when it did not have to pay all of its bills.
Busdrvr: Why is UAL still losing around 10 MILLION dollars per day?
Busdrvr said: And that is different from which airlines? Of course (with one of the highest load factors of all the majors) filling seats ISN’T a problem.
Analyst says: The difference is that UAL is in CHAPTER 11. At their current rate, they will never emerge. You should know that a “high†load factor does not translate to profits. I have not checked lately, but I think that UAL is still operating with about a 95%-97% break-even load factor percentage.
Busdrvr, you keep on talking about “labor factorâ€, while is it vital to an airline; there are many other factors in making money. When UAL starts showing profits, then you can discuss how the “high†load factors were key to this success. It is great that UAL is adding 10% capacity, but you should not compare that with any other airline. Each company has its own problems and adjusts its capacity based on their particular situation.
Busdrvr said: You had to go to a loan shark to get dip financing. You can rest easy that UAL WILL have plenty of money to exit.
Analyst says: It does not matter where US gets its money. It is in the bank and that is all that matters. Who is giving UAL money to exit from Chapter 11? I believe that Chip is correct that many employees are in denial. IF UAL emerges from BK, then and only then can you start to compare whom did it better. UAL is a LONG WAY from emerging from BK.
Analyst says: Do not shoot the messenger; Chip is only reporting the numbers. Complain to AVMARK if you do not like how their data portrays UAL. As I said before, UAL is a sinking ship! There are not any financial analyses that can make the UAL numbers look good.
Yea, buy 3 get 1 free is a great offer for the "average" consumer. Buy 3 EXPENSIVE business type fares and we will give you a "free" ticket that it impossible to use with the airlines shrinking this class of service inventories. You can save money by using HP versus this offer.
Chip said: During the first four months of this year the carrier lost more money than any airline in the world, when it did not have to pay all of its bills.
Busdrvr: Why is UAL still losing around 10 MILLION dollars per day?
Busdrvr said: And that is different from which airlines? Of course (with one of the highest load factors of all the majors) filling seats ISN’T a problem.
Analyst says: The difference is that UAL is in CHAPTER 11. At their current rate, they will never emerge. You should know that a “high†load factor does not translate to profits. I have not checked lately, but I think that UAL is still operating with about a 95%-97% break-even load factor percentage.
Busdrvr, you keep on talking about “labor factorâ€, while is it vital to an airline; there are many other factors in making money. When UAL starts showing profits, then you can discuss how the “high†load factors were key to this success. It is great that UAL is adding 10% capacity, but you should not compare that with any other airline. Each company has its own problems and adjusts its capacity based on their particular situation.
Busdrvr said: You had to go to a loan shark to get dip financing. You can rest easy that UAL WILL have plenty of money to exit.
Analyst says: It does not matter where US gets its money. It is in the bank and that is all that matters. Who is giving UAL money to exit from Chapter 11? I believe that Chip is correct that many employees are in denial. IF UAL emerges from BK, then and only then can you start to compare whom did it better. UAL is a LONG WAY from emerging from BK.