Us Airways, Attendants Reportedly Near Pact

[700UW]

Maybe a call to Airways ethics group would be in order.

[post="227783"][/post]​

You gonna report this poster too?

PITguy, I apologize for the delay. I haven't been online and just saw your note.
We are not going to outsource heavy maintenance in PIT or elsewhere. We never even proposed it. (Unlike UA which has proposed the outsourcing of heavy maintenance.)
We will pay all furlough pay as provided for in the contract.
We have no further plans to lay off more mechanics beyond what is published. With the new commitment to operate 279 a/c, we will need just about all the mechanics on the property to perform the maintenance we have scheduled, since our fleet plan anticipated retiring some planes that we will now be flying.
Finally, we are not trying to vendor maintenance with either Boeing or Airbus.
Chris Chiames

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[NAPAUS]

Flyguy,

No C scale. The wage will be what is currently being negotiated for ALL f/as.

The earlier proposal that was posted way back in Aug. and Sept. has changed substantially, and that "pay Scale" for the returnees is OFF the table.

[post="227743"][/post]​

Thanks for the all the great info. I too agree the threat of strike/chaos did propel the negotiations. I'm glad to see that as AFA members we finally are getting some solidarity. I still hold out hope for the future. Once again, your information and diigence to present the facts is GREATLY appreciated.. Happy Holidays

 

[NAPAUS]

Thanks for the all the great info. I too agree the threat of strike/chaos did propel the negotiations. I'm glad to see that as AFA members we finally are getting some solidarity. I still hold out hope for the future. Once again, your information and diigence to present the facts is GREATLY appreciated.. Happy Holidays

[post="227795"][/post]​

Oh Btw, This was meant for PITBULL!

 

[RowUnderDCA]

edited byposter

 

[spacewaitress]

nice butt delldude

 

[delldude]

nice butt delldude

[post="227815"][/post]​

lol...thanks...caught me ala carting at the only restaurant i can afford these days.. 😉

 

[spacewaitress]

save some for me...scraps, that is 😛

 

[PITbull]

How about?

Neener Neener Neener.

I posted the correct information, you tried to refute me, I posted further clarification and you still doubted me.

And if you don't have a sense of humor then I suggest you stop reading this board.

[post="227765"][/post]​

700,

Let it rest.

 

[PITbull]

Who cares.

In any event, I ran into Lakefield at CCY yesterday, and he seemed quite upbeat about things.

Time will tell.

[post="227772"][/post]​

Will the "real Itrade" please stand up....

I thought you were a pax, and that you didn't work for U???? 😛h34r:

Let's see...might that be a "lie"?

 

[PITbull]

Who cares....how petty. I think the ignore feature is about to come in handy. Lets move along with this thread and not give certain people the attention they are looking for.
So, PITBull....we keep hearing within HOURS we may have a T/A. Will that be put out via E-line the same day? I hope it's not a repeat of CWA holding theres for a few days because all it does is start rumors and makes peoples minds run wild.

[post="227784"][/post]​

The Committee is $10 million short of the company's ask and the company won't even budge. This is a shame, and pathetic bunch of morons.

We give 3 concessions, pensions are being terminated, retiree medical huge wage sacrifices, and the bozos in CCY won't budge to give the f/as a T/A.

I say, screw'm. Let the judge decide if $10 million is worth abrogating our agreement.

 

[UseYourHead]

PitBull,

Dou believe that the FAs should not meet the targets while other employee groups do? One of the problems here has been this kind of caving in on managements part over the years...that is over, not by managements choice, but by creditors pressure, and that of the bankruptcy process.

I hope you can get the best deal for the FAs possible, while meeting the cost cutting target, for that you will receive a hardy well-done!

Keep up your hard work to help your fellow employees get through this with their jobs.

The Committee is $10 million short of the company's ask and the company won't even budge. This is a shame.

We give 3 concessions, pensions are being terminated, retiree medical huge wage sacrifices, and the bozos in CCY won't budge to give the f/as a T/A.

I say, screw'm. Let the judge decide if $10 million is worth abrogating our agreement.

[post="227910"][/post]​

 

[USAirBoyA330]

PITBull:

Thanks for the update 😀

 

[DCAflyer]

The Committee is $10 million short of the company's ask and the company won't even budge. This is a shame.

We give 3 concessions, pensions are being terminated, retiree medical huge wage sacrifices, and the bozos in CCY won't budge to give the f/as a T/A.

I say, screw'm. Let the judge decide if $10 million is worth abrogating our agreement.

[post="227910"][/post]​

Pitbull, can AFA send its last proposal (the $10M short proposal) to the membership for ratification? That way, if it gets ratified and the company still tries to abrogate the contract, we can say "look, we negotiated in good faith, we came only $10M short, the membership ratified and the company still said no. Certainly, there can be a very meritorious "good faith" argument against the company if this new one gets ratified.

Any thoughts?

DCAflyer

P.S., if it came to being ratified, I can't imagine that the company wouldn't just take what it can get and drop the abrogation matter.

 

[jimntx]

Pitbull, can AFA send its last proposal (the $10M short proposal) to the membership for ratification? That way, if it gets ratified and the company still tries to abrogate the contract, we can say "look, we negotiated in good faith, we came only $10M short, the membership ratified and the company still said no. Certainly, there can be a very meritorious "good faith" argument against the company if this new one gets ratified.

Any thoughts?

DCAflyer

P.S., if it came to being ratified, I can't imagine that the company wouldn't just take what it can get and drop the abrogation matter.

[post="227932"][/post]​

AFA's Constitution and By-laws may be really different from APFA's, but in this case I doubt it. Pitbull, can answer better, but my guess is that the union can not send anything to the membership for a ratification vote EXCEPT a Tentative Agreement--which means that the negotiators from both sides have reached an agreement. That has not happened here apparently. The union could probably send out their last proposal for a straw vote, but it would not constitute ratification. Only a TA can be ratified.

That's not to say that such action would not carry some weight with the judge when it comes to measuring "good faith."

 

[PITbull]

AFA's Constitution and By-laws may be really different from APFA's, but in this case I doubt it. Pitbull, can answer better, but my guess is that the union can not send anything to the membership for a ratification vote EXCEPT a Tentative Agreement--which means that the negotiators from both sides have reached an agreement. That has not happened here apparently. The union could probably send out their last proposal for a straw vote, but it would not constitute ratification. Only a TA can be ratified.

That's not to say that such action would not carry some weight with the judge when it comes to measuring "good faith."

[post="227935"][/post]​

You are exactly correct.