US 798 PHL-AMS Sun 10-Jul

[PHL]

A colleague of mine was on US 798 Sunday night and said, after a delayed departure, they were 3 hours into the flight just about to make the Atlantic crossing when they turned back and returned to PHL. He said the Captain eluded to hydraulic problems. A new plane and crew were brought in and they left PHL again at 430am.

Any more details on this one? He said people wondered why they didn't land somewhere sooner/closer if a system like that was malfunctioning.

 

[Dog Wonder]

Did Corporate Security meet the plane?

 

[nycbusdriver]

Last night, 12 July, was a mess for US international in PHL. BCN canceled at 4 am, after turning back before coast out. AMS returned to gate for engine problems before taxiing and not sure if it ever left either. GLA also had problems.

 

[Glucose Intolerant]

Did Corporate Security meet the plane?

That would be funny if it weren't probably true.
If we can't make you think the way we want you to - we will intimidate and threaten you until you do.

 

[mrbreeze]

A colleague of mine was on US 798 Sunday night and said, after a delayed departure, they were 3 hours into the flight just about to make the Atlantic crossing when they turned back and returned to PHL. He said the Captain eluded to hydraulic problems. A new plane and crew were brought in and they left PHL again at 430am.

Any more details on this one? He said people wondered why they didn't land somewhere sooner/closer if a system like that was malfunctioning.

Probably the most restrictive item on Trans Atlantic is the F/A's duty day. I believe they are restricted to 15 hrs on duty. This particular flight is scheduled for a 10 hr duty day, so by the time the aircraft diverts to, say, Halifax, then they find an offline mechanic....along with finding the parts needed to make a repair, the F/A's run out of time in a hurry. And it can be as much as 2 hours just to return to BOS, where I doubt that they keep 75/67 parts.

A large part of the decision has to do with the actual problem with the aircraft. Divert to Halifax with a major problem and not only do you have a crew there on the clock, but about 200 pax to accommadate until the repair is made or you send another whole operation in to pick them up....this doesn't even get into ETOPS restrictions...and hydralics are a huge item in that arena. On the other hand, if the aircraft returns to Philly, a new crew is called....either the aircraft is repaired, or replaced, and the flight just operates several hours late.

breeze

 

[767one]

Last night, 12 July, was a mess for US international in PHL. BCN canceled at 4 am, after turning back before coast out. AMS returned to gate for engine problems before taxiing and not sure if it ever left either. GLA also had problems.

DUB was late. Three different a/c were sched for the flt before they finally found a good one. Once a hyd problem was fixed it left 40 min late. Evidently mtc problems with 4 or 5 t/a flights on the 12th.


Regards,


Bob

 

[kubotapilot]

Barcelona cx last night due to MX. CDG subbed to 767 due to that one. Must be an 330 down somewhere for a few days...

"and the money kept rolling out..."

DUB was late. Three different a/c were sched for the flt before they finally found a good one. Once a hyd problem was fixed it left 40 min late. Evidently mtc problems with 4 or 5 t/a flights on the 12th.


Regards,


Bob

 

[john john]

Barcelona cx last night due to MX. CDG subbed to 767 due to that one. Must be an 330 down somewhere for a few days...

"and the money kept rolling out..."

And the passengers service agents kept rebooking and accommodating within the HP style guidelines

 

[USA330300]

Did Corporate Security meet the plane?

Asinine. What a tool!

 

[Dont call me Shirley]

Remember a few years back when US ran over 5000 TATL flights with no cancelations?

 

[phllax]

Remember a few years back when US ran over 5000 TATL flights with no cancelations?

I do, and I think that summer they had no spares!

 

[Dog Wonder]

Asinine. What a tool!

Get a sense of humor or go back to the Pilot thread.

 

[LD3]

Get a sense of humor or go back to the Pilot thread.

I got a chuckle out of it.....

 

[VAflyGal]

Probably the most restrictive item on Trans Atlantic is the F/A's duty day. I believe they are restricted to 15 hrs on duty. This particular flight is scheduled for a 10 hr duty day, so by the time the aircraft diverts to, say, Halifax, then they find an offline mechanic....along with finding the parts needed to make a repair, the F/A's run out of time in a hurry. And it can be as much as 2 hours just to return to BOS, where I doubt that they keep 75/67 parts.

A large part of the decision has to do with the actual problem with the aircraft. Divert to Halifax with a major problem and not only do you have a crew there on the clock, but about 200 pax to accommadate until the repair is made or you send another whole operation in to pick them up....this doesn't even get into ETOPS restrictions...and hydralics are a huge item in that arena. On the other hand, if the aircraft returns to Philly, a new crew is called....either the aircraft is repaired, or replaced, and the flight just operates several hours late.

breeze

Breeze, you're sort of right. Domestic duty is 14 scheduled, 15 actual. International you can go to 18, but you have to have supplemental f/a's and there are other rules.

 

[InternationalDan]

Breeze, you're sort of right. Domestic duty is 14 scheduled, 15 actual. International you can go to 18, but you have to have supplemental f/a's and there are other rules.

I hope you didnt lose anymore keys on that flight......That would be bad news...


Dan