United, Us Airways, and Continental?

[Coach Cabin]

You truly don't understand what was given up by the east pilot group to "save" the company over two BK's. The promise of good merger is only made good by a company that treats the pilots, as well as the rest of the employees, as assets. And I will be quite frank, the pilots are the single most important human asset of any airline including this one. If management does not understand that fact, as apparently this management does not, the chances of success are slim at best.

Parker thinks he is working with a Mesa pilot group. He cannot figure out we are not going to give in. Neither can the west pilots. They truly don't understand the animosity and ill will that has been going on long before america west entered the fray. We gave up most everything to save the airline only to get #### on once again. If it fails, it fails. Big freakin deal.

What you fail to understand is that what you gave up in two bk's is what allowed you to survive long enough get you to the HP/US merger. Granted, you may have given up a lot but you cashed in that chip already. It was just enough to keep you afloat until the HP merger. You can not cash in the same chip twice. Just try doing it in Vegas and see what happens to you. It is incomprehensible as to why you think the rules are different for you and that you are entitled to do it here.

 

[767jetz]

So much for ending this thread on a positive note.

 

[Freebird]

USAPA is another thorn in the side for the entire company. It's very sad to see how the east pilots have taken what looked like a good promise when the merger occurred, to a situation that is negatively affecting the company's reputation, the flight attendant agreement or lack thereof and how we became the "ugly girl at the prom" as so many people have mentioned. There does not appear to be any end in sight over the pilot battle and for that, I am very sorry for the many employees of US Airways/America West.

Indeed. Very well put. USAPA is the cancer of the entire airline. Driven by greed.

 

[Poug Darker]

Indeed. Very well put. USAPA is the cancer of the entire airline. Driven by greed.

Get real. ALPA was a pushover - gave in to any co. demand, no matter how onerous. USAPA has finally stopped that and is standing up for the pilot group.
The previous poster was correct that the east group has been taken advantage of since 9-11. Management has certainly taken their bonuses since then - all the pilots want is a return on their investment and a good contract. These concepts seem to be foreign to management and to the other employee groups as well.
"Driven by greed"?! I wish that were true. Then the pilot group would be insisting on an industry leading contract instead of an industry standard contract.
The flight attendants need to look at their own union and ask why they don't have a contract. You can't blame the pilots for their own fear.
Cheers.