Twinkees Dead, Union Charged with Ho-Homicide..

[eolesen]

"The point is the jobs they're offering us aren't worth saving," he said Friday. "It instantly casts me into poverty. I wouldn't be able to make my house payment. My take-home would be less than unemployment benefits. Being on unemployment while we search for a new job, that's a better choice than working these hours for poverty wages."

In many states, including Kansas, workers are ineligible for unemployment if they're out of work due to a labor dispute. Whether or not it remains considered a labor dispute during liquidation isn't really clear.

 

[signals]

Listen Dude ! All I'm saying is that in "THIS" economic climate, now is not a good time to put your job on the line,,,,,,,,,,,,no matter how many times you've been at the negoiation table and like it or not that "IS" the reality ! Teamsters seem to think a strike was not needed !

Again, my compassion goes out to the "NON-Union" employees, who lost their jobs and no one else !

Don't know if or why this was meant at me. I agree we shouldn't put our jobs on the line. Much like the ATC workers, I am bound by a No-Strike Clause in my contract. Happy or not, I have to continue working with my current contract unless we negotiate a new one or have an arbitrator decide it.

 

[southwind]

Was not directed at you.

 

[Kev3188]

Listen Dude ! All I'm saying is that in "THIS" economic climate, now is not a good time to put your job on the line,,,,,,,,,,,

Someone will always come up with a reason why "it's not a good time." Sometimes you have to do whatcha gotta do anyway...

 

[xUT]

With NAFTA cars were sent to Mexico, fully assembled, just to have seat belts installed. Maybe Hostess is planning on baking Twinkies in Brazil. With a shelf life of close to 100 years, I think we have a 50 year supply

There is more truth in that than is normally accepted.
Globalization will in fact level the playing field to the lowest common denominator.
The die is cast and changing it back will be impossible.
B) xUT

 

[xUT]

Someone will always come up with a reason why "it's not a good time." Sometimes you have to do whatcha gotta do anyway...

There are people that mouth (not saying you) solidarity and protecting MeriKa but have no loyalty when buying consumer goods. Just look at the iphone and ipad frenzy. It is known fact that these workers are housed in a company building, work 6-7 days a week at 12 hours a day but we still see MeriKa ass-clowns cueing up to get one.
Industrial workers have been "Globalized" and to compete, MeriKa needs to digress back to the 'good old days' of locked doors, supervisors with clubs and 12 hour days.
Grab your ankles as this train is coming...
B) xUT

 

[signals]

Remember when Coke was going to replace Coke with a new Coke and Coke was going to discontinue Coke? Remember how people began to buy cases of Coke before Coke onle made new Coke?

Well I should have seen this coming...
http://abcnews.go.com/Business/hostess-twinkies-sell-60-box-ebay/story?id=17739110

 

[Glenn Quagmire]

Remember when Coke was going to replace Coke with a new Coke and Coke was going to discontinue Coke? Remember how people began to buy cases of Coke before Coke onle made new Coke?

Well I should have seen this coming...
http://abcnews.go.com/Business/hostess-twinkies-sell-60-box-ebay/story?id=17739110

That has nothing to do with this episode in labor history. That is a marketing classic mistake.

 

[RDU Jetblast]

Then quit !

And I'm sure there are many "NON-UNION" employee's who lost jobs because of this !

well, they did, en masse. Cant really blame strikers if Hostess fired the non union workers.

The B.O.D. basicly said F' em all.

 

[NewHampshire Black Bears]

Never have I condone crossing a picket line and didn't agree with what happened at NW, but then again, their Brethren, IAM didn't give a rat's ass either !


Sounds to me like everyone's vote "Wasn't" counted !

"The Teamsters, however, didn’t vote to strike Hostess, and pleaded with the bakers’ union to find a way out of its confrontation. In a statement today, the Teamsters said, “ Teamster Hostess members, based on the facts and advice from respected restructuring advisors, understood what was at stake and voted to protect all jobs at Hostess.”

http://blogs.wsj.com...ty-for-workers/

Sorry folks, but imo, in the current finacial mess this whole country is in right now, it's not the ideal time to strike..................hear what I'm saying Walmart employee's ?

Quit 'trying' to come across as a Union Sympathizer..living in (God Forsaken) GEORGIA.

"G-M-A-F-Break" !!!!!!!!!

 

[Dog Wonder]

Lot of Monday Morning Quarterbacks here.

Didn't play the game but know what they would have done if they had.

 

[delldude]

Lot of Monday Morning Quarterbacks here.

Didn't play the game but know what they would have done if they had.

What did those union bakers turn down?

 

[700UW]

They didnt turn down anything, their CBA was abrogated and they had one imposed, they went on strike because of the abrogation.

 

[700UW]

 

[700UW]

http://blog.workingamerica.org/2012/11/16/romney-style-economics-behind-decline-of-hostess-but-workers-are-paying-the-price/

• Hostess is in bankruptcy for the second time since 2009.
• For the past 8 years, Hostess has been owned by Wall Street investors: so-called “restructuring experts,” managers from other non-baking food companies, and now a “liquidation specialist.”
• The Wall Street investors that own Hostess have no interest in the company succeeding – very similar to the situation of Bain Capital and KB Toys in 2000.
• Hostess has had six CEO’s in 8 years, none of whom had any experience in the bread or cake baking industry. This, not any action by the unionized workers, led to their failure.
• Hostess workers made numerous concessions, including this year when the company stopped making contributions to their pensions. They went on strike because management offered a contract cutting wages and benefits by 27-32 percent.
• Despite their troubles, Hostess’ CEO got a 300 percent raise, from $750,000 to $2,250,000. Other top executives have also gotten raises worth hundreds of thousands of dollars.
• Earlier this week when workers at 20 plants went on strike, Hostess management claimed they would close plants in response. In fact, they already had plans to close at least nine plants as part of a company-wide reorganization. The Mayor of St. Louis said of the closings “I was told months ago…”