Top 60 Domestic O&d Markets From Phl

[AirplaneFan]

Below are the top 60 domestic (lower 48 states) for O&D traffic from PHL. Colums are: other city to/from, Passengers per day, avg. one-way fare, carrier with the largest market share, market share and one-way fare charged by the carrier

Observations:

1. 6 of the top 9 destinations now have SW nonstop competition on their routes. If you include PVD and MHT as secondary airports of Boston than it would be 7 out of 9. Ditto SJC and OAK as secondary airports to San Francisco (only a Sat. nonstop for the moment)

2. PHL, while the 4th largest metropolitan area ranks 22nd as far as O&D passengers.

3. There are only 3 cities on the list that have avg. one-way fares of over $300 (PVD, RIC and MHT). Two of them now have direct SW non-stop competition.

4. 38 of the 60 cities listed are cities that are flown to by SW.

5. PVD and MHT are very low on the list shown below. Howver they both have tremendous traffic to BWI (1,818 and 1,644 daily passengers). Both of those routes are in the top 100 domestic routes flown in the U.S. (70th and 78th). So it takes little imagination that both of those cities' passenger traffic from PHL will skyrocket when fares go from $300 one-way to as little as $24 one-way.

6. Herb Kelleher dimishes the impact of SW's 28 daily flights to PHL compared to U's 400. However, those 28 flights bring 7,672 new seats to the PHL market each day. Considering that PHL only has 30,000 O&D daily passengers the impact of SW is going to have will be enormous.

7. U is the market leader on only 37 of those 60 routes. It would appear that PHL is not as strong a hub for U as other major's hubs.

CityST Passengers/Day One-wayFare LgstCarrier LgstMktShare LgstOne-WayFare
Atlanta, GA 2043.36 137.81 DL 58.59 144.36
Orlando, FL 2041.63 117.71 US 64.92 120.12
Chicago, IL 2003.26 209.9 UA 35.53 240.34
Boston, MA 1875.1 93.42 US 66.65 102.65
Ft. Lauderdale, FL 1361.52 106.81 US 62.82 107.47
Los Angeles, CA 1281.19 254.77 US 43.63 255.74
Las Vegas, NV 1088.69 185.86 US 56.35 190.87
San Francisco, CA 1004.45 298.65 US 34.45 311.87
Tampa/St. Petersburg, FL 987.17 127.34 US 68.31 128.92
Dallas/Ft. Worth, TX 909.78 251.82 AA 54.01 276.97
Denver, CO 743.47 255.34 UA 39.19 303.16
Minneapolis/St.Paul, MN 672.06 254.12 NW 56.55 287.32
Houston, TX 623.69 262.42 CO 45.46 279.42
Detroit, MI 574.89 256.14 NW 63.49 258.22
Seattle, WA 510.76 269.06 US 46.39 289.92
Pittsburgh, PA 462.6 260.37 US 92.99 262.33
Phoenix, AZ 462.06 238.08 HP 37.56 266.58
West Palm Beach, FL 456.73 119.84 US 83.34 115.51
San Diego, CA 455.97 255.85 US 50.08 276.47
New Orleans, LA 417.28 164.16 US 66.71 166.24
Kansas City, MO 407.39 173.79 US 64.19 171.57
Miami, FL 407.06 165.82 US 45.98 172.84
Raleigh/Durham, NC 403.47 213.24 US 62.82 222.74
Jacksonville, FL 359.13 155.43 US 75.39 150.76
St. Louis, MO 352.39 268.4 AA 61.28 280.41
Ft. Myers, FL 336.52 126.96 US 81.84 125.57
Charlotte, NC 322.71 320.68 US 89.99 329.91
Milwaukee, WI 307.93 164.45 YX 41.47 172.84
Indianapolis, IN 306.08 244.02 US 66.37 265.01
Cleveland, OH 246.19 295.47 US 50.64 297.05
Columbus, OH 242.5 274.16 US 80.05 280.89
Cincinnati, OH 241.52 276.77 DL 63.86 273.3
Santa Ana, CA 218.8 275.46 US 23.64 250.69
Memphis, TN 201.84 202.64 NW 68.06 198.27
Portland, OR 198.58 265.05 UA 36.28 289.69
Nashville, TN 197.71 265.02 US 65.53 272.03
San Jose/Palo Alto, CA 182.17 266.55 HP 23.32 224.29
Salt Lake City, UT 180.76 294.5 DL 57.12 329.48
Greensboro/High Point, NC 172.28 203.61 US 86.94 205.94
Albuquerque, NM 169.13 199.64 AA 41.83 191.94
San Antonio, TX 150.65 242.66 AA 41.91 218
Portland, ME 142.17 200.14 US 82.49 200.95
Dayton, OH 128.15 199.91 US 69.8 209.58
Sacramento, CA 126.41 256.76 UA 33.27 272.29
Austin, TX 121.08 283.28 AA 47.21 299.11
Savannah, GA 119.02 141.09 US 52.23 136.8
Hartford, Ct/Springfield, MA 117.06 298.08 US 90.9 298.82
Grand Rapids, MI 113.69 144.61 NW 50.19 133.16
Louisville, KY 106.41 251.95 US 65.06 251.2
Buffalo, NY 105.1 297.02 US 84.07 298.13
Madison, WI 101.3 134.85 NW 46.24 133.15
Norfolk, VA 100.1 270.07 US 95.76 272.12
Providence, RI 99.89 328.22 US 92.16 326.8
Pensacola, FL 96.3 141.49 US 40.85 137.27
Charleston, SC 95.43 226.15 US 83.59 226.61
Richmond, VA 93.15 321.39 US 96.38 323
Ontario, CA 91.52 257.83 HP 21.73 284.57
Myrtle Beach, SC 90.76 138.03 US 73.41 137.35
Des Moines, IA 88.04 150.54 UA 40.61 145.79
Manchester, NH 86.84 308.46 US 90.61 306.96

 

[ClueByFour]

2. PHL, while the 4th largest metropolitan area ranks 22nd as far as O&D passengers.

If places like BNA, RDU, BWI, etc are any kind of guide, this won't hold true for very long.

 

[AirplaneFan]

BWI is in the list, BNA and RDU are not. Here's the top 60

CityST Daily Psg
New York, NY 124253
Chicago, IL 89683
Las Vegas, NV 68345
Los Angeles, CA 65740
Atlanta, GA 62266
Dallas/Ft. Worth, TX 52668
Orlando, FL 50117
Seattle, WA 46898
Phoenix, AZ 44168
Denver, CO 43941
Baltimore, MD 42935
Washington, DC 42097
Houston, TX 40093
Boston, MA 40056
San Diego, CA 35580
Ft. Lauderdale, FL 35168
Oakland/Berkeley, CA 33113
Tampa/St. Petersburg, FL 32806
San Francisco, CA 32559
Minneapolis/St.Paul, MN 30981
Philadelphia, PA 30845
Detroit, MI 30507
Portland, OR 25752
San Jose/Palo Alto, CA 24090
St. Louis, MO 22781
Kansas City, MO 21982
Sacramento, CA 21105
Santa Ana, CA 21023
Salt Lake City, UT 18896
New Orleans, LA 18095
Raleigh/Durham, NC 17334
Miami, FL 16124
Indianapolis, IN 16101
Pittsburgh, PA 15723
Nashville, TN 15596
Cleveland, OH 15593
Ontario, CA 14915
Hartford, Ct/Springfield, MA 14055
Austin, TX 13322
San Antonio, TX 13053
Providence, RI 12802
Milwaukee, WI 12670
Columbus, OH 12650
Albuquerque, NM 12298
Glendale/Burbank, CA 11839
West Palm Beach, FL 11544
Charlotte, NC 11328
Jacksonville, FL 10393
Reno, NV 10341
Buffalo, NY 10282
Manchester, NH 9213
Cincinnati, OH 9203
Ft. Myers, FL 8942
Omaha, NE 8126
Norfolk, VA 8121
Long Beach, CA 7757
Memphis, TN 7497
Louisville, KY 7035
Oklahoma City, OK 6688
Dayton, OH 6319

 

[USFlyer]

Hmm, so many cities where US could fly 2-3 flights/day (assuming connecting traffic). Begs the question why US isn't with the CWA agreements allowing new cities to be opened with contract employees (or so I think). Heck, contract with UA, similar to how AC has UA handle some of its flights, to ground service the flights on a trial basis.

 

[USFlyer]

BWI is in the list, BNA and RDU are not.

I think Clue's point was that due to the "Southwest Effect", BWI and other cities have seen a sizable increase in O&D traffic after WN comes to town.

 

[phillyguy]

Interesting MEM is on the list a #34 and U does not fly direct to there but many of the other cities below it they do.

Chicago #3 on the list with UA as the dominant carrier but only 35% market share

 

[tadjr]

7. U is the market leader on only 37 of those 60 routes. It would appear that PHL is not as strong a hub for U as other major's hubs.

Santa Ana, CA
Portland, OR
San Jose/Palo Alto, CA
Salt Lake City, UT
Albuquerque, NM
San Antonio, TX
Sacramento, CA
Austin, TX
Madison, WI
Ontario, CA
Des Moines, IA

U doesnt even fly to 11 of the cities shown. So out of the 49 remaining it is number 1 in 37 of them. I know when head to head against most other hubs we are not dominant either. ATL-DL IAH-CO MSP-NW, etc you would think that in at least 1 of these head to head hub PHL markets we would be the leader. :down: