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This Is Do Or Die Week For Delta's Stakeholders

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Virtually everyone agrees that this is the week that will decide Delta's future. The first round of Delta's debt restructuring is due to be completed on Tuesday. The results of that and whether Delta has a pilot's agreement by then will surely determine whether Delta ends up in bankruptcy.

By far the number one response as to how Delta got into this situation is one of disbelief. Many people do understand the situation well but let's recap the causes and necessary actions for everyone's benefit.

1. Delta, long one of the best-run airlines in the business has had poor leadership for 10 years. Ron Allen's crowd boldly went after Pan Am but thought it necessary to eradicate any traces of the once great airline and in so doing lost many good business practices. Delta was way in over its head that they didn't recognize how bad things were or when it was time to rework the failed plan. The answer seemed to be to bring in industry outsiders. In reality, the roaring e-commerce economy turned Delta and the rest of the industry around in the late 90s but Mullin and his crew made sure that Delta leaders enjoyed the fruits of their labors as occurs in other industries but has never been successful in the airline industry. The most damning indictment of Mullin is that he allowed Delta to lose its long held cost advantage in the network carrier industry. Further, they had no vision of expanding Delta's network but were more interested in playing games with Delta pilots about whether to increase the number of the large international aircraft necessary to expand the international network.

2. Unwilling to endure what United's pilots did to their company and in full belief that pattern bargaining was just the way it worked in the airline industry, Mullin caved and gave Delta pilots UA plus 1. The ink was even dry before everyone realized that neither Delta nor United could afford it. For three years and 1/2 years, Delta pilots have enjoyed compensation that is not only out of line with the industry but also unsustainable for the company.

3. Michelle Burns took the strategy of hoarding cash and hanging on in the hope that other airlines would fall first and ultimately Delta would be able to turn itself around based on reduced capacity in the industry. In the meantime, unit revenues fell along with Delta's cost competitiveness which was exacerbated by the growing debt necessary to keep the company afloat.

4. Leo Mullin seemed to think that government bailouts would save Delta and the rest of the industry but in reality only further increased the size of the hole Delta had dug for itself. Mullin did recognize that consolidation needed to occur in the industry and must have believed that DL would survive and be an acquirer.

Thankfully, the situation can be turned around.

1. Delta's current management consists of the industry veterans who know the business but also are very business savvy. The airline industry is unique and experience is required for success in any aspect of it. Grinstein does recognize Delta's role in the industry and what is necessary for the company and industry to be profitable. Delta, along with American, have developed the most holistic plans to turn the company around - and have positioned it to prosper, grow, and take a position of leadership in a rejuvenated industry. Even other contributors on this board who work for other airlines recognize that Delta has historically been a well-run airline and has a viable turnaround plan in place pending successfully obtaining concessions.

2. Bankruptcy has become the tool airline management has used to counter pattern bargaining. Oh it's still pattern bargaining but the movement is unquestionably in the downward direction. Delta will get the concessions it wants from Delta pilots: outside of bankruptcy it will be worth $1B; if Delta goes into bankruptcy, all "uncooperative" stakeholders will disproportionately pay for sending Delta to bankruptcy - the pilot contribution will be much more than $1B since that amount, while huge, still puts Delta pilots in the position of being fairly well paid for US legacy pilots. In reality not getting concessions earlier has been a benefit for Delta since the deteriorating situation at Delta and the industry has only increased the justification for the size of the requested "contribution". If Delta has to come back for more concessions, the company probably can't be viable anyway.

3. It's time to deal with Delta's cost problem. There is no more credit and cash is near crisis levels. However, let's remember that AMR had less cash when they had their courthouse steps showdown with labor that resulted in even bigger concessions from its labor groups. Although there are few cases of successful out-of-bankruptcy turnarounds in the airline industry, AA will stand as one example already (although they still have work to do). I believe Delta's pilots and debtholders will help out because they will all fare much worse in bankruptcy than they will by working with the company outside of bankruptcy. Hopes of finding a better deal in front of the bankruptcy judge simply have not worked - and won't work now either; the wreckage in the industry is proof of that.

4. The government recognizes as evidenced in multiple reports that the legacy industry needs to adapt to the new value-driven environment or die. Delta and American have the potential of being industry leaders with global networks and customer driven products if both can emerge from their current situation - and AA is clearly much farther along the path. There will be no resistance to consolidation other than what exists to prevent market dominance in other industries because the pricing system is driven by the low cost carriers. Delta was built by acquiring other carriers throughout its history and will return to doing the same thing since DL has access to fewer unique international markets than any other carrier. Delta was also never given any special treatment or special route awards in contrast to AA, UA and a host of now defunct carriers.

This is the week Delta's future will be determined. I believe all involved will make the right choice. I believe we will know by the end of the week.
 
WorldTraveler said:
if Delta goes into bankruptcy, all "uncooperative" stakeholders will disproportionately pay for sending Delta to bankruptcy - the pilot contribution will be much more than $1B since that amount, while huge, still puts Delta pilots in the position of being fairly well paid for US legacy pilots.
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Would you care to explain what you mean by this?
How about a pay rate example?
It sounds like to me that you are saying that even if the company goes BK that the pilots will most likely end up with a payrate that is no worse than AA or UAL?
You believe the courts will impose "pattern payrates" while outside of BK the pilots will end up with AA/UAL plus 1?

Mistified once again
 
mistified said:
You believe the courts will impose "pattern payrates" while outside of BK the pilots will end up with AA/UAL plus 1?
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Let me reword this for clarity:
In BK you believe the courts would impose "pattern payrates". However outside of BK you believe the pilots would end up with AA/UAL + 1?
 
Worldtraveler has is out to lunch...always has been always will be. By the way world it was UAL + 3% for DAL pilots...I know because contract 2000 at UAL was improved on by DAL pilots.
 
DL is $20 BILLION in debt, oil still going north and the pilots are pretending like it is still August 2001.

Any speculation that DL can avoid Ch11 is hogwash.

DL never was good at pursuing lost business. From personal experience.
 
My biggest regret is, Delta gave its anchor for the Pacific by dropping JFK & LAX service to Tokyo. I can understand how ATL was/is the champion( and only current Asia service) but those two were very important to the airline's future. The European equal is giving up service from ATL & JFK to CDG. If Delta wants to fly to all parts of the world like Argentina & Brazil, Europe & Asia it must fly more then one route in each region. I truly hope Delta makes it, the south and east coast really need it.
 
mistified,
let me see if I can lift the clouds from your mind.

The whole reason ALPA is desperately trying to come to an agreement is because they know that DL will ask for way more than $1B in concessions if they are forced to go to bankruptcy to receive them. Given that the market is now defined by US' payrates, not AA or UA, there is every reason to think DL will ask for even more than what has been asked so far. Don't worry, though. ALPA knows this and will come up with a deal.

And it is certainly possible that the pilots will come up with a deal but the debtholders won't. In that case, they will have their clocks cleaned while the pilots will be protected by an 1113 letter (see US boards if you are unsure about this).

Delta will get the help it needs and is already on the way. In the short hours since whatkind... and JFK777 spouted off, DAL received a $600 million loan (most of which is a revenue advance) from American Express and a restructuring of $135M of debt due in 2005.

I'm sorry if you'll be disappointed children, but it sure looks more and more like Delta won't be filing chapter 11 this week after all. Who, besides me would have ever thunk that?
 
WorldTraveler said:
mistified,
let me see if I can lift the clouds from your mind.
The whole reason ALPA is desperately trying to come to an agreement is because they know that DL will ask for way more than $1B in concessions if they are forced to go to bankruptcy to receive them. Given that the market is now defined by US' payrates, not AA or UA, there is every reason to think DL will ask for even more than what has been asked so far. Don't worry, though. ALPA knows this and will come up with a deal.
I'm sorry if you'll be disappointed children, but it sure looks more and more like Delta won't be filing chapter 11 this week after all. Who, besides me would have ever thunk that?
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WorldTraveler your excellacy
I agree with your clarification. It did not come out like this the last
time you posted.
It's childish for someone to think that those who don't agree with everything they expouse would be dissapointed if DAL did not go BK. Where did that come from? Hello??? I doubt that there are many people who would wish that on a group of employees. Lively hoods are at stake here. :blink:
Sooo.. your excellancy you need to put your shields down and don't act so paranoid. And who knows, it might even help your credibility.
 
mistified,
no formal titles are necessary.
everyone including the media who has been predicting Delta's demise for months are the only ones whose credibility is at stake. Those who could logically think through Delta's situation and understand its people and its culture can see that what Delta is asking for is not at all unreasonable.
Yes, livelihoods and a heck of a lot of money is at stake. Despite all the Delta management bashing that seems to be such a popular sport, I think it will be shown that those same managers have done everything they can to position Delta employees to continue to be some of the best compensated in the industry; all that is asked in return is a willingness to ensure the success of the company and genuine concern for the customers who pay their bills. Delta has a viable business plan to turn itself around and it involves keeping the employees on the side of the company - a strategy some airlines long ago abandoned.

Forgive me if my frustration seems directed at you. Your statements are reasonable. Others posted on this topic are not. Those are the ones I respond to with a justified indignation.

Happy Tuesday to us all - esp. those who will celebrate Delta's transformation.
 
I'm just curious why you pretend to just be a customer (if you really ARE a customer, you need help ....... can you say OBSESSED?) It's a company.......no matter how many dates (flights) you have with her, she won't cluck with you.
 
WorldTraveler said:
mistified,
let me see if I can lift the clouds from your mind.

The whole reason ALPA is desperately trying to come to an agreement is because they know that DL will ask for way more than $1B in concessions if they are forced to go to bankruptcy to receive them. Given that the market is now defined by US' payrates, not AA or UA, there is every reason to think DL will ask for even more than what has been asked so far. Don't worry, though. ALPA knows this and will come up with a deal.

And it is certainly possible that the pilots will come up with a deal but the debtholders won't. In that case, they will have their clocks cleaned while the pilots will be protected by an 1113 letter (see US boards if you are unsure about this).

Delta will get the help it needs and is already on the way. In the short hours since whatkind... and JFK777 spouted off, DAL received a $600 million loan (most of which is a revenue advance) from American Express and a restructuring of $135M of debt due in 2005.

I'm sorry if you'll be disappointed children, but it sure looks more and more like Delta won't be filing chapter 11 this week after all. Who, besides me would have ever thunk that?
[post="194803"][/post]​
World, I have felt the same way as you. I'm anxiously awaiting word on the pilot concessions..
 

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