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Submissive Obama Admin Apologizes to Iran!

townpete said:
There was no "boat malfunction" as they left on the same boats the next day.
 
The whole incident doesn't pass the smell test.
 
There's much more to this story then what has been told so far.
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You base this opinion on what? Your long years of service in the US Navy?As it turns out it wasn't a mechanical malfunction. It was a "malfunction" of the OIC to keep aware of his position at all times. And if you think that's not possible then you really have no idea what you are talking about.
 
Cover story from SECDEF:
 
 
                "The information that they have given us, and through their commanders is that they did stray accidentally into Iranian waters due to a navigation error," Carter said in a television interview with Univision at U.S. Southern Command in Miami. 
 
"So that seems to be the original cause of this, according to the interviews that we have done," Carter added.
 
Dog Wonder said:
Give it a Breathalyzer.
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I'd be happy to do so, since any liberal that honestly believes this was both an almost unimaginably massive navigational error as well as a magically timed engine failure (that somehow prevented even being towed by the other craft) has to be hopelessly drunk and/or high.
 
Beyond that lurk even better questions: Why was it the case that supporting forces to prevent seizure of the craft and crews were nowhere to be found? What was even the possible point in having these small and poorly armed craft stumbling around anywhere near where they were in the first place?
 
EastUS1 said:
 
this was both an almost unimaginably massive navigational error as well as a magically timed engine failure (that somehow prevented even being towed by the other craft).
 
Beyond even that lurks an even better question: Why was it the case that supporting forces to prevent seizure of the craft and crews were nowhere to be found?
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Reporting from the scene?
 
Dog Wonder said:
Reporting from the scene?
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Hardly. My name's not Geraldo, Brian Williams or Hillary/"We landed under sniper fire", so I'm without the liberal "creativity" required to outright lie about such things. No matter....So you can't actually explain any of this insanity, or even begin to address just how hopelessly lame the current BS we've been hearing from DC about it is? Whatta' surprise.
 
EastUS1 said:
Beyond that lurk even better questions: Why was it the case that supporting forces to prevent seizure of the craft and crews were nowhere to be found? What was even the possible point in having these small and poorly armed craft stumbling around anywhere near where they were in the first place?
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Were you ever in the military? If so what branch were in where everything went according to plan 100% of the time, officers never made bad decisions and things didn't go SNAFU?
 
777 fixer said:
Were you ever in the military? If so what branch were in where everything went according to plan 100% of the time, officers never made bad decisions and things didn't go SNAFU?
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I was, and I've no delusional fantasies about anything in this world of ours EVER going "according to plan 100% of the time", or ANY of the time for that matter, but I've yet to hear anything even approaching a both logical and even slightly sane explanation for what took place to see 2 of our military vessels immediately surrendered without so much as even a single shot being fired. Perhaps you've something to offer there that might actually make some sense....? Aw shucks..Stuff happens, in no way at all serves or satisfies here.
 
EastUS1 said:
I was, and I've no delusional fantasies about anything in this world of ours EVER going "according to plan 100% of the time", or ANY of the time for that matter, but I've yet to hear anything even approaching a both logical and even slightly sane explanation for what took place to see 2 of our military vessels immediately surrendered without so much as even a single shot being fired. Perhaps you've something to offer there that might actually make some sense....? Aw shucks..Stuff happens, in no way at all serves or satisfies here.
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So if, say, 2 Iranian ships were lost and strayed into US water, it would be okay for them to open fire on the USCG boat(s) that came out to investigate?
 
Kev3188 said:
So if, say, 2 Iranian ships .....
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What's your point? I don't give even half a hair off a rat's arse about Iranian ships. I care about OURS.
 
Kev3188 said:
Cool story.

So in the scenario I laid out, should the Iranians escalate the situation and open fire or not?
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Nothing about the situation concerning 2 US military vessels being immediately surrendered without the slightest supporting forces available at all makes sense in ANY way. On what possible basis can you now even pretend to "know" they were in legitimately Iranian waters, just for starters?
 
Were their recent "tests" close to an American CVN also inside some sacred Iranian space?
 
If you so clearly wish to play mindless cheerleader for the Iranians/obama et al; have fun with it.
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FDLu0AKxtvs
 
Kev3188 said:
I'm lost and somehow wind up in your neighborhood. You come out to see what's going on. Should I open fire? Should you?
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First ask these noble people if they were "lost" and just somehow wound up in the neighborhood of an American capital ship and then get back to me. Hmm...maybe they were just so hopelessly lost that they felt the need to fire salvos of rockets to summon help?  http://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/navy-releases-video-iran-firing-rockets-near-u-s-carrier-n493366
 
I'm no longer even curious as to just what form of virulent insanity demands of liberals that they always side with our enemies. There's simply no rational explanation to be found for it.
 
No one's siding with the enemy. I'm lost in your 'hood. You investigate. I give no indication of threatening behavior. I'm just lost. It's a simple question. What would you do?
 
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