I am hearing through the grapevine that the company is once again trying to get rid of GSE (ground support) and utility (cleaners). This was brought up during bankruptcy negotiations and then was gone. Are they going to try to do this now? This would certainly be another moral killer as if we need one. Anyone else hearing this?Rumor For Mechanics And Utility. Anyone Else Here?
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I am hearing through the grapevine that the company is once again trying to get rid of GSE (ground support) and utility (cleaners). This was brought up during bankruptcy negotiations and then was gone. Are they going to try to do this now? This would certainly be another moral killer as if we need one. Anyone else hearing this?Don't be surprised if one day you wake up and find that the IAM....STRUCK A DEAL WHEN PROVOKED......and saved the Airbus farmout.....at the cost of the UTILITY WORK GROUP <_< .
Naaahh.....they would never do such a thing right LAVMAN?? Then again, You might want to speak with someone in the UAL Utility Dept...or should I say what's left of it??
E-TRONS OUT.
Naaahh.....they would never do such a thing right LAVMAN?? Then again, You might want to speak with someone in the UAL Utility Dept...or should I say what's left of it??
E-TRONS OUT.
Hey LAVMAN, If you ask the IAM about that which I am posting, you will NEVER GET THE TRUTH.
I do post FACTUAL INFO...just like the stuff I saw on paper at the CLT-AMFA info meeting. Here's a new concept....Ask a question and get an answer that's backed up on official documentation....that's what you get with AMFA
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Ask a question to the IAM and you get any of the following:
We can't answer that at this time.
We have nothing new to tell you.
We can't tell you that because it's secret.
LIES, DECEIT, SECRECY and MISREPRESENTATION are the IAM WAY. :down:
The sooner you come to grips with the TRUTH blueboy, the sooner you will understand. B)
E-TRONS OUT.
I do post FACTUAL INFO...just like the stuff I saw on paper at the CLT-AMFA info meeting. Here's a new concept....Ask a question and get an answer that's backed up on official documentation....that's what you get with AMFA
.Ask a question to the IAM and you get any of the following:
We can't answer that at this time.
We have nothing new to tell you.
We can't tell you that because it's secret.
LIES, DECEIT, SECRECY and MISREPRESENTATION are the IAM WAY. :down:
The sooner you come to grips with the TRUTH blueboy, the sooner you will understand. B)
E-TRONS OUT.
jetmechline
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E-TRONS said:Hey LAVMAN, If you ask the IAM about that which I am posting, you will NEVER GET THE TRUTH.
I do post FACTUAL INFO...just like the stuff I saw on paper at the CLT-AMFA info meeting. Here's a new concept....Ask a question and get an answer that's backed up on official documentation....that's what you get with AMFA
Ask a question to the IAM and you get any of the following:
We can't answer that at this time.
We have nothing new to tell you.
We can't tell you that because it's secret.
LIES, DECEIT, SECRECY and MISREPRESENTATION are the IAM WAY. :down:
The sooner you come to grips with the TRUTH blueboy, the sooner you will understand. B)
http://www.the-mechanic.com/trump-lawsuit.html
The following scans are copies of a lawsuit filed against the IAM and USAir by Mechanics formerly employed by Trump Shuttle and Eastern Airlines before the acquisition of the Shuttle by USAir.
UPDATE: The IAM was recently found guilty of these charges and now have appealed. See copy of appeal on IAM 141m site under US Airways.
E-TRONS, If you need proof of IAM LIES, DECEIT, SECRECY and MISREPRESENTATION look no further.
Pay particular attention pages 26, 27,28,37, 38, 42, 43 and 45.
Page 1 - Plaintiffs, Defendants
page 2 - Relevant Parties and Jurisdiction
Page 3 - More Relevant Parties and Jurisdiction
Page 4 - Even More Relevant Parties and Jurisdiction
Page 5 - End of Relevant Parties and Jurisdiction
Page 6 - Facts Giving Rise to This Action; Eastern Shuttle and Its Acquisition by Trump
Page 7 - EAL Employees to Receive Full Seniority at Trump
Page 8 - More Guarantees of Seniority Rights for EAL Employees at Trump
Page 9 - Successful Bidders to Resign from EAL, IAM not involved
Page 10 - EAL, TAC guarantee "seniority and longevity" - Donald Trump to Honor EAL Seniority (Trump was under oath)
Page 11 - Plaintiff's Position in re Seniority Page
12 - 85 EAL Mechanics Bid Trump Shuttle, EAL Strike, EAL Files Chapter 11 Page
13 - Bankruptcy Court Approves Sale, Mechanics Report for Work
Page 14 - Defendant IAM's Longstanding Hostility Toward, and Bitter Hatred of, AMFA
Page 15 - Why IAM Hates AMFA
Page 16 - IAM Likely to Lose UAL, Examples of AMFA Bashing, Vandalism, Intimidation, Violence Against AMFA Supporters
Page 17 - Trump Mechanics Elect AMFA, Trump Restructures Debt, Shuttle Fate Murky
Page 18 - USAir to Take Over Shuttle, Seeks "Single-Carrier" Status, Promises to integrate work forces
Page 19 - IAM Joins Single-Carrier Application, USAir to Honor EAL Date-of-Hire for nonunion workers, IAM to honor same for IAM represented workers - "Loyal" IAM/USAir Mechanics begin petition drive to deny same EAL seniority to Shuttle Mechanics because ex-EAL Mechanics had voted AMFA
Page 20 - IAM, USAir Refuse to Discuss Seniority, From 1992 to 1999 USAir Maintained Separate Work forces Within Classification, Two (2) Collective Bargaining Agreements, Separate Seniority Lists
Page 21 - NMB Makes "Single Carrier" Ruling, USAir Still Operated Shuttle Independently
Page 22 - IAM Discriminates Against ex-EAL Mechanics, USAir Agrees to Recognize EAL Seniority, Needs IAM Approval.
Page 23 - IAM Convinces USAir to Deny Former EAL/Trump Shuttle Mechanics Seniority
Page 24 - IAM Deliberately Lied to Mechanics Page
25 - IAM Again Deliberately Lied to Mechanics,
Page 26 - IAM Refuses to Allow Mechanics Participation at Meeting Regarding Seniority
Page 27 - IAM Again Refuses to Allow Mechanics to be Present at Meeting Page
28 - IAM Refuses to Allow Neutral to Make Decision, Continues to Deceive Mechanics
Page 29 - IAM/USAir Agree to New Contract in 1994, Seniority Clauses
Page 30 - USAir Acquires Full Ownership of Shuttle Page
31 - Trump Shuttle Becomes Wholly USAir Owned Subsidiary, USAir to Retire B727s
Page 32 - IAM Seniority Committee
Page 33 - IAM Finally Informs Mechanics of Seniority Denial, Refuses to Allow Member Participation in Discussions
Page 34 - IAM Falsely Accuses Mechanics in Order to Ostracize Them from Mainline Workforce, Thiede Rejects Appeal
Page 35 - May 1999 Letter of Agreement
Page 36 - IAM/USAir "Redeployment" Scheme
Page 37 - USAir/IAM Collusion, AFA Provided Full Seniority for EAL Flight Attendants
Page 38 - Shuttle Ticket Agents Received Full EAL Seniority
Page 39 - Quote From IAM Legal Memorandum
Page 40 - IAM Historical View Regarding Seniority, Harm to ex-EAL Mechanics
Page 41 - More Harm to ex-EAL Mechanics, IAM Duty of Fair Representation
Page 42 - Thiede and Snyder Implicated
Page 43 - USAir Also Liable
Page 44 - Plaintiffs Entitled to Damages to be Determined at Trial
Page 45 - Plaintiffs Entitled to Enforcement of Promises
Page 46 - Plaintiffs Seek ...
Page 47 - More Plaintiffs Seek ...
jetmechline
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E-TRONS said:THANK YOU JETMECHLINE
Hey LAVMAN.....had enough yet
E-TRONS OUT
Your welcome E-TRONS. There is a wealth of information here that proves what really goes on in IAM "SECRET" negotiations.
Do these people really have the mechanics interest in mind when they are at the table? HELL NO! :angry:
I have started seeing some of the red shirts some of the shop stewards are selling in Pit. Very nice shirt , same message as the buttons, only one small problem......On the back of the shirt there is a message to Dave about not farming out the Airbus work signed sincerly the IAM. Check out the spelling folks....sincerly(sincerely) is not spelled correctly on the shirts. Not only do we not "understand" we also cannot spell!!!!
