AtlanticBeach
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- Aug 20, 2002
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The chart listed below is from a post on the WN board. It contains the Top 50 PHL O&D domestic destinations in the 3Q04. The final column appears to be the average one way fare.
I graphed this information and then correlated the data using a basic and crude formula of Trip Length in Miles x Average Revenue per Sold Seat in cents= 15,000 (with a floor of 8.6 cents and a ceiling of $1.00 per mile). With an average domestic mainline and express trip length of 750 miles (ballpark) and a 66.7% load, that provides RASM of 13.3 cents. Here are the outliers to this graph, that is, more than 15% from the formulated fare structure.
Destinations with higher average income per revenue seat mile than expectation were PIT, CMB, DTW, CLT, CVG, CLE, DAY, MSP, MEM and DFW. Lower average income per revenue seat mile are flights to/from PVD, MHT, RDU, MCO, TPA, PBI, FLL, LAS and LAX. I don't think there are any real surprises on either list.
The actual formulas that need to be used are far more complex than these calculations. However, this data disputes certain claims on this Board that income is being missed by not providing more flights on specific routes (ex. There was discussion last month about discontinuing EWR-FLL) and indicates that US was/is having a tough time determining yield management on routes where WN provides competition.
Sorry that I can not link to the graphing function on my computer. Here is the chart and the original poster's comments.
Here are the top 50 PHL O&D destinations (3Q2004 USDoT). What is striking is how low PIT is on the list and how high the one-way fare is between the two cities. It seems to reason that PIT should be able to rise to at least the same levels as RDU, PVD and MHT where SW lowered prices and saw O&D numbers go up dramatically.
CityST Passengers/Day One-wayFare LgstCarrier LgstMktShare
LgstOne-WayFare
Chicago, IL 3049.02 113.05 UA 27.04 136.89
Orlando, FL 2799.23 101.85 US 48.83 105.74
Atlanta, GA 2070.32 129.77 DL 62.47 135.08
Los Angeles, CA 2051.63 161.88 US 41.47 165.06
Boston, MA 1887.06 82.84 US 63.19 89.49
Las Vegas, NV 1839.34 137.06 US 49.44 140.92
Ft. Lauderdale, FL 1477.17 103.87 US 49.86 105.99
Raleigh/Durham, NC 1464.34 61.37 US 43.59 68.18
Tampa, FL 1409.45 104.79 US 54.66 107.48
San Francisco, CA 1226.63 221.22 US 41.97 216.97
Providence, RI 1092.93 57.39 WN 63.64 47.84
Dallas/Ft. Worth, TX 1032.06 247.49 AA 56.47 268.95
Denver, CO 1019.13 177.89 US 34.95 167.01
Houston, TX 976.3 157.07 CO 46.37 165.02
Manchester, NH 950 56.53 WN 62.92 46.02
Phoenix, AZ 935.86 153 HP 34.68 163.91
Seattle, WA 767.28 188.61 US 47.3 198.49
San Diego, CA 754.34 177.82 US 44.35 193.62
Minneapolis/St.Paul, MN 736.84 244.16 NW 52.38 288.82
West Palm Beach, FL 721.63 105.3 US 63.2 108.64
Detroit, MI 622.39 230.83 NW 62.29 246.07
St. Louis, MO 541.3 167.47 AA 56.82 172.15
New Orleans, LA 504.78 138.29 US 54.69 141.1
Nashville, TN 465.21 126.91 US 71.44 125.34
Miami, FL 426.08 148.79 AA 48.31 134.92
Jacksonville, FL 422.93 138.91 US 71.78 134.4
Pittsburgh, PA 421.84 265.9 US 86.96 272.51
Kansas City, MO 414.13 155.39 US 64.64 154.07
Indianapolis, IN 403.8 151.98 US 83.31 146.09
Milwaukee, WI 318.8 162.08 YX 45.07 175.48
Salt Lake City, UT 317.39 184.77 DL 75.41 183.11
Charlotte, NC 314.89 328.07 US 83.56 343.84
Ft. Myers, FL 297.17 141.02 US 77.9 139.7
Cincinnati, OH 266.63 225.99 DL 68.89 227.76
Portland, OR 255.65 211.41 UA 30.18 239.3
Columbus, OH 245.43 254.11 US 82.01 260.01
Cleveland, OH 244.78 277.49 US 49.15 258.87
Memphis, TN 214.23 217.43 NW 69.45 225.87
San Jose/Palo Alto, CA 208.15 191.2 UA 26.84 208.47
Sacramento, CA 205.1 186.21 HP 32.11 171.4
Austin, TX 204.45 209.78 AA 36.78 227.53
San Antonio, TX 202.82 192.51 AA 31.29 197.94
Santa Ana, CA 192.6 218.3 HP 34.59 181.37
Albuquerque, NM 179.45 180.48 CO 22.47 144.78
Dayton, OH 164.78 164.24 US 62.13 172.45
Louisville, KY 161.63 170.96 US 75.05 163.53
Oakland/Berkeley, CA 150.76 196.25 WN 34.31 153.54
Savannah, GA 149.02 137.04 US 51.05 137.95
Birmingham, AL 146.63 153.63 US 59.22 151.02
Ontario, CA 129.78 190.23 HP 35.76 183.56
I graphed this information and then correlated the data using a basic and crude formula of Trip Length in Miles x Average Revenue per Sold Seat in cents= 15,000 (with a floor of 8.6 cents and a ceiling of $1.00 per mile). With an average domestic mainline and express trip length of 750 miles (ballpark) and a 66.7% load, that provides RASM of 13.3 cents. Here are the outliers to this graph, that is, more than 15% from the formulated fare structure.
Destinations with higher average income per revenue seat mile than expectation were PIT, CMB, DTW, CLT, CVG, CLE, DAY, MSP, MEM and DFW. Lower average income per revenue seat mile are flights to/from PVD, MHT, RDU, MCO, TPA, PBI, FLL, LAS and LAX. I don't think there are any real surprises on either list.
The actual formulas that need to be used are far more complex than these calculations. However, this data disputes certain claims on this Board that income is being missed by not providing more flights on specific routes (ex. There was discussion last month about discontinuing EWR-FLL) and indicates that US was/is having a tough time determining yield management on routes where WN provides competition.
Sorry that I can not link to the graphing function on my computer. Here is the chart and the original poster's comments.
Here are the top 50 PHL O&D destinations (3Q2004 USDoT). What is striking is how low PIT is on the list and how high the one-way fare is between the two cities. It seems to reason that PIT should be able to rise to at least the same levels as RDU, PVD and MHT where SW lowered prices and saw O&D numbers go up dramatically.
CityST Passengers/Day One-wayFare LgstCarrier LgstMktShare
LgstOne-WayFare
Chicago, IL 3049.02 113.05 UA 27.04 136.89
Orlando, FL 2799.23 101.85 US 48.83 105.74
Atlanta, GA 2070.32 129.77 DL 62.47 135.08
Los Angeles, CA 2051.63 161.88 US 41.47 165.06
Boston, MA 1887.06 82.84 US 63.19 89.49
Las Vegas, NV 1839.34 137.06 US 49.44 140.92
Ft. Lauderdale, FL 1477.17 103.87 US 49.86 105.99
Raleigh/Durham, NC 1464.34 61.37 US 43.59 68.18
Tampa, FL 1409.45 104.79 US 54.66 107.48
San Francisco, CA 1226.63 221.22 US 41.97 216.97
Providence, RI 1092.93 57.39 WN 63.64 47.84
Dallas/Ft. Worth, TX 1032.06 247.49 AA 56.47 268.95
Denver, CO 1019.13 177.89 US 34.95 167.01
Houston, TX 976.3 157.07 CO 46.37 165.02
Manchester, NH 950 56.53 WN 62.92 46.02
Phoenix, AZ 935.86 153 HP 34.68 163.91
Seattle, WA 767.28 188.61 US 47.3 198.49
San Diego, CA 754.34 177.82 US 44.35 193.62
Minneapolis/St.Paul, MN 736.84 244.16 NW 52.38 288.82
West Palm Beach, FL 721.63 105.3 US 63.2 108.64
Detroit, MI 622.39 230.83 NW 62.29 246.07
St. Louis, MO 541.3 167.47 AA 56.82 172.15
New Orleans, LA 504.78 138.29 US 54.69 141.1
Nashville, TN 465.21 126.91 US 71.44 125.34
Miami, FL 426.08 148.79 AA 48.31 134.92
Jacksonville, FL 422.93 138.91 US 71.78 134.4
Pittsburgh, PA 421.84 265.9 US 86.96 272.51
Kansas City, MO 414.13 155.39 US 64.64 154.07
Indianapolis, IN 403.8 151.98 US 83.31 146.09
Milwaukee, WI 318.8 162.08 YX 45.07 175.48
Salt Lake City, UT 317.39 184.77 DL 75.41 183.11
Charlotte, NC 314.89 328.07 US 83.56 343.84
Ft. Myers, FL 297.17 141.02 US 77.9 139.7
Cincinnati, OH 266.63 225.99 DL 68.89 227.76
Portland, OR 255.65 211.41 UA 30.18 239.3
Columbus, OH 245.43 254.11 US 82.01 260.01
Cleveland, OH 244.78 277.49 US 49.15 258.87
Memphis, TN 214.23 217.43 NW 69.45 225.87
San Jose/Palo Alto, CA 208.15 191.2 UA 26.84 208.47
Sacramento, CA 205.1 186.21 HP 32.11 171.4
Austin, TX 204.45 209.78 AA 36.78 227.53
San Antonio, TX 202.82 192.51 AA 31.29 197.94
Santa Ana, CA 192.6 218.3 HP 34.59 181.37
Albuquerque, NM 179.45 180.48 CO 22.47 144.78
Dayton, OH 164.78 164.24 US 62.13 172.45
Louisville, KY 161.63 170.96 US 75.05 163.53
Oakland/Berkeley, CA 150.76 196.25 WN 34.31 153.54
Savannah, GA 149.02 137.04 US 51.05 137.95
Birmingham, AL 146.63 153.63 US 59.22 151.02
Ontario, CA 129.78 190.23 HP 35.76 183.56