Republic to spin off Frontier

[ThirdSeatHero]

In a recent teamsters update, they claim they are starting negotiations for Mechanics at Frontier.

I was under the impression that when Republic first bought Frontier that the teamsters didn't have enough mechanic members at frontier to trigger an election on Republic, and they therfore would've gone non-union.

Whats the story?

 

[BoeingBoy]

Whats the story?

According to Republic's last annual report covering 2010 (a new one should be available before long) the Teamsters represent the pilots, most of the FA's (AFA represents about 1/3), mechanics, cleaners, and "material specialists" (you'd know better than me who they are).

Jim

 

[fixindaplane]

According to Republic's last annual report covering 2010 (a new one should be available before long) the Teamsters represent the pilots, most of the FA's (AFA represents about 1/3), mechanics, cleaners, and "material specialists" (you'd know better than me who they are).

Jim

Teamsters represent Frontier employees but not Republic employees. Republic Airways was very careful to keep these work groups apart. I for one am glad of that. I was a Lynx mechanic and was able to switch over to being a Republic mechanic by basically just changing uniforms. We got to negotiate our seniority integration ourselves without any union interference which made the process fair and quick. As far as I can tell Frontier mechanics are angry most of the time and pay the teamsters lots of money every month for almost invisible representation.

 

[BoeingBoy]

Teamsters represent Frontier employees but not Republic employees.

Depends on the group. IBT represents all pilots since Lynx was shut down, most FA's and mechanics as I recall - I'm too lazy to dig up the 10Q again. For several of the work groups there's only one seniority list so Republic/Frontier doesn't make any difference representation wise.

Jim

 

[ThirdSeatHero]

Depends on the group. IBT represents all pilots since Lynx was shut down, most FA's and mechanics as I recall - I'm too lazy to dig up the 10Q again. For several of the work groups there's only one seniority list so Republic/Frontier doesn't make any difference representation wise.

Jim

And again (for the mechanics) how did it happen?

The Frontier mechanics when bought out didn't constitute the 35% threshold for "showing of interest" to trigger a representation election.

Republic management early on tried to force this issue and the teamsters won an injunction on the grounds that only an employee/union can call for a single transportation system determination not a carrier, and some of the Frontier mechanics that Republic had tried to say were non-union had their CBA rights and benefits restored.

Fast forward and Republic goes back to court and wins a modification to the injunction which states that the injunction only remains in place while the teamsters ACTIVELY petition for a single transportation determination.

After that the trail goes cold...... if the teamsters asked for STD then the mechanics would've gone non-union....and as this was what Republic was seeking after going back and getting the injunction modified......the mystery is why are they opening section 6 negotiations?

 

[BoeingBoy]

That's more detail than I know, but you can go to the NMB site and look through the archives for their determinations. That should tell you how the IBT came to represent the mechanics.

Jim

 

[Bradly71]

There have been lots of visits by US execs to the Frontier/Republic headquarters lately. US and F9 have a lot of similar aircraft..anyone heard any rumblings that maybe US would be interested in F9? One would think it would soley for a routes and a bigger presence in DEN, maybe for aircraft.

 

[AdAstraPerAspera]

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[AdAstraPerAspera]

I got the impression for talking with her that even now there are no "Frontier" flight crews based at MKE. There are some rj crews that for seniority list purposes are "Frontier", but they do not fly "Frontier" equipment. The single carrier certificate applies only to the merging of the seniority lists.

This is getting more complicated than the US Airways merger.

To clarify, the Republic and the Chautauqua bases in MKE are closing in April, but the proper F9 crew base at MKE is not closing. there are still around 60 pilots and 78 flight attendants still based in MKE, for true Frontier. They operate the Apple vacation charter airbus flights from ORD and the like, to places like, MBJ, CUN, PUJ, PVR, etc...

 

[Bradly71]

The employee's in HDQ were told today that the F9 SOC is moving back to DEN very, very soon

 

[eolesen]

Just hitting the wires.... F9 pulling down to just 7 flights a day for the summer. Only DCA, DEN and MCO will remain as destinations.1

 

[jimntx]

That's in MKE only. No effect on DEN operations.

 

[Ozark]

With the downsizing of the MKE Hub by Frontier to just 7 flights, they will still have leases on 21 Gates. Don't need 21 Gates for 7 flights, however I'm sure they'll swing a deal with MKE and other airlines.

Gates C9 and C11 - United/United Express, Air Canada

Gates C10 and C12 - American/American Eagle

Gates C18 and C19 - US Airways/US Airways Express

Gates C14 - C15, C20 - C25 - AirTran

Gates D27 - D51, D53 - D55 - Frontier

Gates D52, D56 - Southwest

Gates E62 and E63 - United/United Express

Gates E64 - E69 - Delta/Delta Connection

Gates C17, E60 and E61 Vacant