Political Correctness rewriting our history?

delldude said:
 
Children of dead Dixiecrats?
 
You don't even know what a Dixiecrat is.
 
And there are no racist southern democrats ?
 
Naw, they're all just racist southerners.
 
You're right.   But I WAS old enough to read "Colored only" over a water fountain and see "Whites only" signs at some restaurants.  The last time I was in Mississippi in the late 80's, we ate at a restaurant that still had a remnant of the "Whites only" days by having a box to display your "club card".  The patrons inside all got a good laugh as we stood there wondering what we were supposed to do - seems the glass in the front door was a one way mirror - the "club" meant you were white and got let in.  
 
Never said there weren't any racist southern democrats....just that they are apparently outnumbered by the racist southern republicans...given the color of the election map for the past half century. 
 
KCFlyer said:
 
You're right.   But I WAS old enough to read "Colored only" over a water fountain and see "Whites only" signs at some restaurants.  The last time I was in Mississippi in the late 80's, we ate at a restaurant that still had a remnant of the "Whites only" days by having a box to display your "club card".  The patrons inside all got a good laugh as we stood there wondering what we were supposed to do - seems the glass in the front door was a one way mirror - the "club" meant you were white and got let in.  
 
Never said there weren't any racist southern democrats....just that they are apparently outnumbered by the racist southern republicans...given the color of the election map for the past half century. 
 
Wasn't it when democrats took a stand and fought against desegregation that many became disillusioned with the democrats and went republican? 
 
And all southern republicans are racist then?
 
delldude said:
 
Wasn't it when democrats took a stand and fought against desegregation that many became disillusioned with the democrats and went republican? 
 
And all southern republicans are racist then?
 
I'm sorry....I had to clean off my monitor after reading this....I spit my drink all over the screen.  I was in junior high/high school in the early 70'/s.  We had "forced bussing", which is the word that was used to describe desegregation.  People who opposed "Forced bussing" were overwhelmingly republican.  So why would they switch parties because they were disillusioned with democrats over civil rights, then turn around as republicans and oppose civil rights issues?  
 
KCFlyer said:
 
I'm sorry....I had to clean off my monitor after reading this....I spit my drink all over the screen.  I was in junior high/high school in the early 70'/s.  We had "forced bussing", which is the word that was used to describe desegregation.  People who opposed "Forced bussing" were overwhelmingly republican.  So why would they switch parties because they were disillusioned with democrats over civil rights, then turn around as republicans and oppose civil rights issues?  
 
Took you long enough.
 
Civil rights issues were opposed by both parties for different reasons, don't you think?
 
Your Dixiecrats splintered off the main party due to desegregation in the military. They were the supporters of a segregated south. All but Strom Thurmond went back to the party, several became pol's or just got old and fizzled out of the political arena, with Thurmond and maybe one other joining the Republicans.
 
So that was a splinter group of the Democrats, supported no doubt, by an equal number of splinter group constituents.....these appear to be what was left of the old South tradition slave think. I'm sure others in the Dem party still held and to this day still hold on to many of those 'traditions'. So as the Southern Democrats started embracing civil rights more and more, moving away from a party supporting states rights and moving toward a party that favored more government intervention, a party that supported states rights and less government becomes an attractive choice. 
 
But this progressive mantra that they all became Republicans is absolute BS. Sure, some joined the Republican party but at the same time as the South was growing Northerners began relocating for new jobs in the new South.....many were Republicans.
 
The busing issue which began in the South only and then was mandated for the entire country was another 'feel good' measure with disastrous results.
 
The education system in both the North and South was in terrible disarray with a huge disparity in quality between Black and White schools in areas that were known for inferior scholastics. That was a large reason for resistance against forced busing. Of course it was,at the same time,resistance to change in the form of integration.
 
But this idea it was primarily Republicans is BS too. In the non southern states, many areas with the most visible reaction to busing were Democrat controlled states and cities. Many involved in the creation of the laws which created desegregation ended up sending their children to private schools. Both sides.
 
Forced busing created a lot of anxiety across the country but in the end, the disparity betweens Black and White schools was exposed and on the road to improvement.
 
delldude said:
 
Wasn't it when democrats took a stand and fought against desegregation that many became disillusioned with the democrats and went republican? 
 
And all southern republicans are racist then?
 
I can only speak for Florida - but Claude Kirk, a democrat who turned republican and he was AGAINST "forced bussing".   
 
Something caused democrats in the south to become republicans...but having lived their for the first 21 years of my life, I can't say that it was because they were disillusioned with democrats opposing desegregation.    If anything, it was because they were disillusioned with democratic representatives bowing to LBJ and passing the civil rights act. 
 
KCFlyer said:
 
I can only speak for Florida - but Claude Kirk, a democrat who turned republican and he was AGAINST "forced bussing".   
 
Something caused democrats in the south to become republicans...but having lived their for the first 21 years of my life, I can't say that it was because they were disillusioned with democrats opposing desegregation.    If anything, it was because they were disillusioned with democratic representatives bowing to LBJ and passing the civil rights act. 
 
Uh.....when dems bowed to LBJ the segragationist Dixiecrat faction became disillusioned.
 
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Dog Wonder said:
Drop the nonsense, this wasn't your personal account and when asked to verify it you didn't know where it was, and then said it wasn't on an Army base after all.
O.K. we'll drop the nonsense. I don't give two hoots if you believe me or not.
 
Insp4 said:
In your warped mine, maybe so.
 
What would you attribute it to?  I grew up there.  I saw people calling black folks n-----rs long before the could vote.  They learned that somewhere....and it wasn't taught in politically correct schools.  They vote overwhelmingly republican.   But why do you think the south went "red"...right after the civil rights act of 1964?
 
KCFlyer said:
What would you attribute it to?  I grew up there.  I saw people calling black folks n-----rs long before the could vote.  They learned that somewhere....and it wasn't taught in politically correct schools.  They vote overwhelmingly republican.   But why do you think the south went "red"...right after the civil rights act of 1964?
Blacks use that same derogatory remark on each other on a regular basis. What's your point?

I lived in the Bay Area for years and guess what? That remark was used as well. By devout liberal's no less.
 
Bill Vestrup said:
Blacks use that same derogatory remark on each other on a regular basis. What's your point?

I lived in the Bay Area for years and guess what? That remark was used as well. By devout liberal's no less.
Blacks still vote democratic.  Why did the south turn from Democrat to Republican just after the civil rights act of 1964?   And why do so many have "the south shall rise again" rebel flags on the front of their pickups?  
 
KCFlyer said:
Blacks still vote democratic.  Why did the south turn from Democrat to Republican just after the civil rights act of 1964?   And why do so many have "the south shall rise again" rebel flags on the front of their pickups?
I'll leave that ridiculous premise for you to stew on. It serves me no purpose, nor do I care.
 

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