Pittsburgh AFA informational picketing

[Twicebaked]

I know I will get a lot of slack for this, but who cares...apparently Local 40 members DON''T CARE.

As a former member of Local 40 I am ashamed of this membership. Need you be reminded that YOU are the membership, not Teddy, Mark, and Gineen. They are merely your leaders. THIS IS YOUR MEMBERSHIP!!!!

Only a handful of you showed up for YOUR informational picketing. I find this sort of funny since there are no flight attendants in PIT with less than a 1998 seniority. Besides Charlotte, Pittsburgh has the most senior f/a''s.

Pittsburgh f/a''s are fighters. They are also the first one''s to #### and complain when things don''t go there way. I am so suprised at their apathetic attitudes. Yet, you go on ANY flight and all they do is complain. You had your chance to voice your concerns and YOU blew it.

There will be another info. picketing sometime next week. I STRONGLY suggest that you show your support for your profession this time, or next time you may not have your profession.

STAND UP TO SADDAM SIEGEL. SHOW HIM WHAT PITTSBURGH IS REALLY MADE OF.

 

[MarkMyWords]

In another thread PitBull said:
I am not sure you understand what a Union is...I can tell you what it's not...it's not about 5 or 10 union leaders....the unions ARE the members. No management want to hear the same retorhic from the same leaders whine and complain. They need to hear from the MEMBERSHIP who ARE the UNION. It takes their envolvement in every issue and every dispute.


PITbull


And PitBull would have you believe that the AFA is doing what the members of her union wanted them to do. Sounds like there was very little support for her chosen path of protest.

 

[MarkMyWords]

Speaking of reading things in the papers.......where is all of this tremendous media coverage? Nothing in the Post Gazette or Allegheny Times. And they are your hometown newspapers.

Believe it or not I do support SOME of your issues.....but I do not agree with the forum you have chosen to voice your complaints....and obviously your fellow AFA memebers didn''t either.

 

[PITbull]

hEY Marky Management,



I was there as a flight attendant! So were the others that were not working, additionally, we had members from IAM, and CWA supporting us as well...ALL day. But most importantly, we had MAJOR support from the flying public, as that is what came out of their mouths.

Corporate greed, and Corporate welfare IS GETTING OLD WITH THE PUBLIC...they read the papers.

 

[PITbull]

Marky,

You would like to believe that wouldn''t you. Call and get the guidlines at the Pittsburgh airport on just how many folks you can have in th square for picketing purposes.....a total of 5. period. You are so wrong. The poster above called the PIT President and thought there should have been hundreds of f/as there, he did NOT know that we were restricted. Our picketing was a complete success. The postcards are coming at you.

 

[wench]

SoMMW is MGMT EH?

I'd love to tell you a few facts of life!

And PitBull, I LOVE THAT name..You go and TAKE a big chunk
out of them..

Very Well Deserving!

B******S!

All of them..

May they all rot in hell!

One day, they are ALL GOING TO REAP WHAT THEY'VE sown!

Now, MARK MY WORDS!

 

[pitguy]

I did hear about it on KDKA radio which is very, very big in our area.

I found the Trib article on-line, but no picture of the PIT President. To bad, I saw her on TV before and she is a hottie.

 

[PITbull]

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On 6/6/2003 12:12:02 PM MarkMyWords wrote:

Speaking of reading things in the papers.......where is all of this tremendous media coverage? Nothing in the Post Gazette or Allegheny Times. And they are your hometown newspapers.

Believe it or not I do support SOME of your issues.....but I do not agree with the forum you have chosen to voice your complaints....and obviously your fellow AFA memebers didn''t either.

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Check out the Tribune, you''ll get a nice shot of the PIT President.

 

[LavMan]

Fly, how much of Dave, Dave and Jerry''s kool-aide did you drink?

 

[MarkMyWords]

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On 6/6/2003 3:12:03 PM golden1 wrote:

SoMMW is MGMT EH?


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Not management here. Everyone that holds a different opinion the PitBull is considered management to her.

As for the press coverage....you are rockin! KDKA and 1 newspaper! Man, sure do hope they didn''t get in the way of the huge picket line! LOL

 

[mrplanes]

Fly,

A team must have leadership. I just got done reading an article on Jetblue in the latest Air Transport World. Each employee there is called a crewmember. And their CEO, Dave Neelman, leads. By example. I''m not even sure we have a leader here much less who he is. To be a "team player" as you suggest would assume we have a team. What is going on with AFA and ALPA should make you see we don''t have a team. Just employees. If you get a chance, read that article. It summarizes why Jetblue and Southwest are eating everyone''s lunches. And it is much more that low costs. So much more.

All the givebacks, work rule changes, ATSB financing, pension terminations, BK exiting and whiz kids who make the above work is not a sign of leadership. It is a sign of economic expertise. Period. One can argue that all of that saved this airline from C7. Quite possibly it did. But the lack of a leader who inspires the "crewmembers" to kick butt is what will eventually save or doom this carrier. There is no Kelleher here. No Neelman. No Bethune. No one that inspires. And if anyone thinks just a paycheck and benefits are what is important, go talk to the employees of Southwest or Jetblue. Our workplace has changed dramatically. When that happens you better have a leader who can inspire. In the beginning I thought Seigel was that man. Now I''m praying he hires someone who knows how important employee morale and loyalty is. Someone who knows that numbers, while certainly essential, are not the whole story.

mr

 

[pitguy]

Maybe they are making their point then.


-Hey it''s legal and it does not say in the contract that they can not do informational picketing. The road runs both ways.

 

[mga707]

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On 6/6/2003 4:49:45 PM flyonthewall wrote:

Picketing disrupts the business of the employer who is being picketed by interfering with the performance of the employees. It also portrays a negative picture of the company. ----------------​

No...really?


...that''s the whole idea!

 

[mlt]

Another point of view....

1. for employees to have a sick bank they have given something up at the bargaining table.

2. employees are being denied the ability to draw fully from their sick bank, yet are charged with a sick occurence that could lead to dependability issues. (Imagine having your savings account at the bank debited in the same manner!)

Utilizing fly on the wall''s example:

1. If this non-option f/a is sick the last week of the month there is not time to make up the days lost.

2. If this non-option f/a is a reserve he/she is capped at 71 hours (a 9 hour deficit).

3. If this non-option f/a flys to 90 hours and is a reserve he/she is capped at 71 hours (a 19 hour deficit).

4. If this non-option f/a is a Rome LODO and is a reserve he/she is capped at 71 hours (a 29 hour deficit).

I can''t help but wonder if management is losing a day''s/week''s wages if/when they are sick.

There was an interesting article in todays Post Gazette regarding former Secretary of Treasury and Alcoa Chairman Paul O''Neill. His philosophy... everyone from the guard at the front entryway to the boardroom is treated the same. If mgm''t is truly interested in peaceful labor relations they might find a little humility goes along way.

 

[wench]

PINEYBOB

LOVE YOUR COMMENTS!

Give em HELL!

I have almost 20 yrs and am working my way out gradually.

WHen I was hired in the mid 80''s it was a very good company.

Today, I would not give 2 cents for this "Unethical Employer".

They have no WORK ETHICS< and everything is FOR THEM..

I don''t tell people who I work for_ I''m embarrased..

Do you know what a "seagull does"?

It CRAPS ALL OVER!

FYI