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nycbusdriver
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Wow!
Thank you for at last 'fessing up to what's wrong with you! I didn't realize they had an actual name for what ails you. Will your health insurance cover your therapy? Maybe try Obamacare!
traderjake
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"my airplanes"?
How many airplanes do you own?
The airplanes are owned by a leasing company, not you.
nycbusdriver
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By law and company policy, it's effectively my aircraft from the time I approach it with the intent of flying it, until it arrives at the destination gate, plus 15 minutes. When you check into the Econo-Lodge on your overnight, do you go to "your room", or do you say, "I'm tired, I'm going to the Discount Properties LLC doing business as the Denver Airport Econo-Lodge room number 245"?
traderjake
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Wrong, it's the company's airplane and you're paid to operate in according to company and FAA policy.
The company can ground or delay the airplane after you approach it and even replace you without your consent.
Do you call your coworkers my mechanic, my gate agent, my flight attendants?
Unlike a mechanic, agent or flight attendant, the Captain has the ability to waive FAA and company policy as he/she sees fit to ensure a safe outcome of the flight. True, before the aircraft moves under it's own power, the aircraft owners or those subleasing it can decide the powers of the Captain, but in the air, it's his and the crew members working it are subordinate to the Captain and the First Officer (s). The cockpit crew owns it.
Of course the Captain will need to clearly articulate any deviations from company policy or regulations.
Lighten up with the fixation on the "my" issue. I found when I upgraded that it was amazing that every other group that spent so much mental energy figuring out exactly when they didn't have to listen to the Captain, immediately ran to him when something went sideways. .
"Oh Captain, Oh Captain".
"Oh Captain, Oh Captain".
Heard mostly at the Hotel.... :huh:
traderjake
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Just taunting nycbusdriver for his condescending attitude toward a former fellow employee.
I was "his" F/O.
Age of this group, on both sides of the door, probably someone lost their walker
Yeah, those cabin crews aren't as young and attractive as they used to be..!!!
nycbusdriver
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You conveniently left out the rest of my post.
Do you refer to your hotel room as "my room"? It isn't really, is it? But in a sense it's yours for the duration, just as it's "my airplane" while I am in charge. The hotel could remove you from "your" room at any time also, with no notice for any number of reasons which may not have anything at all to do with you.
Just admit it. You grasped at straws when you challenged my use of common language. And you lost. We have a word for people who lost, too.
traderjake
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Just admit that when a former stock clerk schooled you on the fact that we have no 737-300s you felt the need to insult him.
There's a word for Captains who put down their lower paid coworkers.
nycbusdriver
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I don't mind being "schooled," but how did he do it? I return insults. If he wants to browbeat like he ALWAYS does, I will return in kind.
I admitted the error on the -300.
How about that "my aircraft" thing? When you are pilot monitoring and the captain relinquishes control and makes you pilot flying, what EXACTLY does procedure require you to say out loud?
And, when you have said it (since I'm sure you follow the procedure...really, I'm sure you do), are you claiming ownership of the airplane from the lease holder?
Bet you don't answer.
