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I see no harmony in bringing these 3 groups together. You already have two groups that can't get together and now you want to introduce a 3rd party to the dance that is regarded as the most "opinionated"in the industry. Ask a 20 year AA F/O how he is going to feel about flying with a West Captain who only has 13 years. Oh, and let's not forget the TWA group.
Can you say quagmire?
I see no harmony in bringing these 3 groups together. You already have two groups that can't get together and now you want to introduce a 3rd party to the dance that is regarded as the most "opinionated"in the industry. Ask a 20 year AA F/O how he is going to feel about flying with a West Captain who only has 13 years. Oh, and let's not forget the TWA group.
Can you say quagmire?
outside of a 150 guys flying the cake 9 day month Asia trips, running a second career is for somebody without a life.
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At AA I've flown with Wharton MBA's, practicing Physicians, practicing DDS's, and Ivy League Attorneys. Other AA pilots have been Generals and Admirals commanding more lives at a greater risk and national importance than any AA managers. the bench is deep friend. in my first decade here, I never bought into the "we can do better" groupthink. In the last 10, most the management as witnessed by their actions could be replaced within a week and the airline wouldn't miss a beat.
Another clueless post by 777 / 767 / 757 love.
I'd get my Lab in for a rebuttal, but I'd have to translate it for you, and she has ADD attacks when squirrels run by in the yard, so it would take forever. Still, it would raise the IQ of your post by a significant amount.
First, the piece is a typical hit piece designed to influence the ignorant masses by guess who?, Ted Reed. I doubt he thought this one up by himself without some prodding from Centreport. Insults aside, let's look at the facts.
First, while APA pilots have some concerns about the LCC deal, once they've looked at the facts, the seniority issues become small potatoes. If Teddy Reddy had half a brain and did soem research, he might have noticed why the deal is possible now vs 10 years ago. The age demographics make it possible unlike in the past. LCC/East and West have has their bad blood in the past. what makes the APA deal possible is the retirements coming at LCC. In the next 7 years, 40% of LCC's pilots retire, most from the east. With LCC combined with AA, it's 25% of the total group, and AA's retirements really kick in after that. It would be possible in the past, it is now. Teddy covered a little of what may happen with fences. If Parker wants to run an airline network that competes with DAL/UAL, then it's doubtful he will stagnate or slash a significant amount of current LCC/AA flying like the idiot managers have done in the past. Passing a large chunk of your flying to another carrier for code sharing worked so well with Eagle that it consistently ranked last of all US carriers for years.
Second, spare us the little snide comment regarding the pilot "job" as you call it. outside of a 150 guys flying the cake 9 day month Asia trips, running a second career is for somebody without a life. for the past 20 years, my time away from base averaged 60-70 hours a week away, and not much of that time was spent lollygagging around hotels. As for bringing the "dream of flying" into the compensation equation, you just demonstrate your cluelessness.
As for the "educated" management team, just consider this. At AA I've flown with Wharton MBA's, practicing Physicians, practicing DDS's, and Ivy League Attorneys. Other AA pilots have been Generals and Admirals commanding more lives at a greater risk and national importance than any AA managers. the bench is deep friend. in my first decade here, I never bought into the "we can do better" groupthink. In the last 10, most the management as witnessed by their actions could be replaced within a week and the airline wouldn't miss a beat.
Yes, attack those who express opinions different then yours. Bad news, you can be replaced. There are more pilots then positions.
You must be the guy who sits around ops Monday morning talking about "how much better they could do it" when talking about a football game, AFTER IT HAS HAPPANED. You think management has it so good, and you have it so bad, QUIT, and go get another job.
Oh, and I'm not clueless or ignoratn like you, I was just raised by a AA pilot who loved his job and what he did. 20 years......you're a rookie still.
No one is forcing you to stay, and that is what the REST OF THE WORLD DEALS WITH. When we don't like our company or our compensation, we either suck it up or leave. Try doing the same.
You are the porblem with your porfession. I saw a email from a S80 Captain who actually expressed a common sense opinon, wish he would post on here, though I'm sure he would just be ripped apart by the "smart guys" like you. The guys who believe they are entitled to certain things.
You don't like you job, the pay or the hours, QUIT. No one forcing you to stay, and I bet there are a whole bunch of pilots out there that would take your job in a heatbeat.
Cheers,
777 / 767 / 757