Outsourcing The Airbus

[justaumechanic]

Everyone knows that ACTS (Air Canada Technical Services) wants the Airbus
S check work in the worst way.

700 reminds us that the Scope language is rock solid and it will never happen.

However a funny thing happend on the way to a new contract. The existing CBA
may contain a loop hole that might solve old Dougie's problem.

Once an aircraft leaves US air space the company is free to vendor any and
all work. The company can fly an Airbus on a revenue flight into Canada, then
tow the aircraft over to ACTS facilities, do the S check, return it to the gate when the work is complete and fly it revenue back to the US.

What is to stop the company from following this course? The essance of the
CBA does not prevent them from doing this. The company is allowed to vendor any and all maintenance on the aircraft outside of the country.

 

[cltbay1homie]

and where in the elusive contract did you find this tidbit of info?

Everyone knows that ACTS (Air Canada Technical Services) wants the Airbus
S check work in the worst way.

 

[AP Tech]

C'mon now....the fighting Machinists would never stand for that....but wait a minute, aren't ACTS technicians represented by the IAM? How hard are they going to fight this?

 

[700UW]

The company cannot schedule maintenance outside the country that the IAM members do in-house and they can't schedule mtc into a non-mtc station.

The company is requesting relief and the IAM in transistion negotiations and the union has refused.

The scope language prevents this and it has been tested and won.

 

[DR.EVIL]

The company cannot schedule maintenance outside the country that the IAM members do in-house and they can't schedule mtc into a non-mtc station.

The company is requesting relief and the IAM in transistion negotiations and the union has refused.

The scope language prevents this and it has been tested and won.

The company is requesting relief in the transition agreement?? :angry: None of us in clt has heard anything about that. When did the iam plan on telling us that?? Oh thats right its the ibt's fault, there memos are only concerning them. Once again the iam's communication to its members SUX BIG TIME!! :down: And they wonder why their backs are against the wall, quit keeping secrets from the dues paying members and maybe they won't want to send your worthless asses packin.

 

[700UW]

It was told to us at a meeting in CLT with The District President, all the General Chairman and Grievance Chairman from the system.

Frieberger was/is suppose to put out a bulletin on it.

 

[DR.EVIL]

It was told to us at a meeting in CLT with The District President, all the General Chairman and Grievance Chairman from the system.

Frieberger was/is suppose to put out a bulletin on it.

Same old same old, what a crock, this lousy company will never change! :angry: Where do you fall into the us?? I guess when Bill sobers up from the iron city he'll get that memo out for the membership. Leadership at its best. Does the secret transition agreement have some special Pit clauses in it like the final company/union offer had??

 

[700UW]

There is nothing secret about it, Fry is suppose to put out information and the membership has been informed transistion negotiations have been taking place in several bulletins.

I was invited to the meeting, that is where I fall in.

 

[justaumechanic]

At the end of the day the company will get the relief it is requesting.
The IAM will give in. They always give in.

Never say the contract is closed either. It was close the first time, second time and the third time. Of course the judge threw it out the third time but the IAM forgets that..

The company has every intention of farming out the Airbus, you can take tha to the bank.. The contract means nothing to them.

The company cannot schedule maintenance outside the country that the IAM members do in-house and they can't schedule mtc into a non-mtc station.

The company is requesting relief and the IAM in transistion negotiations and the union has refused.

The scope language prevents this and it has been tested and won.

 

[700UW]

You are the IAM and you will get to vote on any changes to the CBA.

If it means nothing they would be farming it out all ready.

Don't let the facts get in the way of your rant.

 

[gonzo]

You are the IAM and you will get to vote on any changes to the CBA.

If it means nothing they would be farming it out all ready.

Don't let the facts get in the way of your rant.

Hmmmm.......getting to vote on any changes to the CBA? So this means that the loop hole exists in the contract, because I don't see anyone getting to vote on something they have already voted on......and approved, loop hole an all.

Morning Mr. 70.

 

[700UW]

Are you that ignorant?

The IAM is negotiating a TRANSISTION Agreement to bring all of you HP AMTs under our CBA.

There is no loop hole.

And I am still waiting for you to answer the questions about the RLA and Section 6.

 

[cat 111]

You are the IAM and you will get to vote on any changes to the CBA.

If it means nothing they would be farming it out all ready.

Don't let the facts get in the way of your rant.

You get to vote several times if you are CONFUSED !!!! By the way,didn't Air Canada invest in the new Usair ???

 

[gonzo]

The company cannot schedule maintenance outside the country that the IAM members do in-house and they can't schedule mtc into a non-mtc station.

You may find out that "the company" will do first and talk about it later. Just my two cents.

 

[MOC A320]

You are the IAM and you will get to vote on any changes to the CBA.

If it means nothing they would be farming it out all ready.

Don't let the facts get in the way of your rant.

The company wanted a little labor peace. If the company realy wanted to get ride of the Airbus and 737 checks they could of under the court order. The IAM won to bring the Airbus checks back before the BK court gave the company the right do what ever it wanted.